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What a waste of life. Why hasn’t someone taken out Putin, is it really that hard? It can’t possibly be that hard for a state.
by dyauspitr 9mo ago
What a waste of life. Why hasn’t someone taken out Putin, is it really that hard? It can’t possibly be that hard for a state.
- subjectsigma 9mo agoOk sure, you go try it! Just remember that even if you succeed, the consequences may be everyone you know and love dying in nuclear fire.
- technate4eva 9mo ago[flagged]
- brandonmenc 9mo agoYes, it is difficult to take out the leader of a world nuclear world power. Especially one as shrewd as Putin. Especially when you're expecting the EU to do it. Not sure why this is a surprise. The world is not an action film.
- rngfnby 9mo agoThis. Never mind that they tried a month ago with the drone attacks. How would this work exactly? The most protected person in the world, thousands of km from hostile borders, in the city with the world best AD surrounded, by bureaucrats who, if anything, think Putin is too soft on the West.
- SanjayMehta 9mo agoAnd what happened? They poked the bear and it turned their electricity grid off. Something NATO would have done in the first 4 hours, not take 4 years.
- rngfnby 9mo agoRight. Ppl behave as if Russia isn't sitting on the world's conventional weapons cache, and largest weapons production capability. Or that Ukraine wasn't sitting on the second largest cache of conventional weapons, particularly Soviet era AD.
- artem2471 9mo agoThat one attack where Russians released an ai generated video to prove its existence.
- jesterson 9mo ago[flagged]
- dismalaf 9mo agoZelenskyy could die tomorrow and Ukraine would keep fighting. Your brain's been melted by Russian propaganda.
- jesterson 9mo ago[flagged]
- fhdkweig 9mo agoThe Ukraine conscription age is 25. If they were desperate for soldiers it would be lowered. It was 18 for the United States in the Vietnam war. Definitely wouldn't be grabbing people off the streets.
- somenameforme 9mo agoThe US was a large country with normal demographics in the era of Vietnam, fighting a war with low deaths - less than 60k over ~10 years of fighting. Ukraine is a fraction of the size of the US, was already in a major demographic crisis before the war started, and is fighting a war where they are suffering high death rates. This [1] is a population of pyramid from Ukraine 2 years ago. It's going to look dramatically worse now. They simply don't have many people below the age of 25. And you shouldn't just view those people as fodder. That is essentially the future of Ukraine. Send them off to die and you literally and figuratively send the future of Ukraine off to die. So the two wars aren't especially comparable at all. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine2024.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine2024.jpg
- SanjayMehta 9mo ago3.1 million Vietnamese died. But they don't count in USAian math. https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War
- ars 9mo agoA state can do it, but it might fail, and the result of a failure would be a catastrophe so everyone is very cautious.
- SanjayMehta 9mo ago[flagged]
- rngfnby 9mo agoAnd then you get Medvedev. His finger is so itchy for the red button he has to rub it with vagisil. At a certain point we have to understand that Putin is about the most pro-Western person left in Russia.
- GolfPopper 9mo ago>Putin is about the most pro-Western person left in Russia. Appearing more sane than Putin while simultaneously being in a position to plausibly serve as Putin's successor is likely to be fatal.
- rngfnby 9mo agoHow's that relevant to the assertion that Putin should be whacked? For whatever reason Putin is the most pro-West guy in the West, he remains the most pro-West guy in the West. Off him and you get a very trigger happy replacement.
- wonderwonder 9mo agoYou think the war ends if they kill Putin? Medvedev would very likely nuke Kiev 30 minutes later.
- dyauspitr 9mo agoI seriously doubt it. You have to be absolutely bonkers to start nuclear war over one person. Russia is insane but not suicidal.
- hyperman1 9mo agoFranz Ferdinand proves we are this bonkers.
- fhdkweig 9mo agoI could believe that one man's death could start a conventional war. A conventional war is winnable. But 100 years later, a nuclear war is suicide at best. Trump would almost certainly not intervene with nukes to protect non-US soil if Russia launched first, but there are plenty of European countries with nukes. Anyone in charge of Russia would have to accept the possibility that a first strike would leave them with a bad time.
- rngfnby 9mo agoThey don't have to nuke anybody, just rain missiles on the Baltics and create a land bridge to Kaliningrad. Now the escalation ball's on our court. Are you willing to die for Latvia? (And Medvedev does appear to be that bonkers)
- Mikhail_Edoshin 9mo agoRussian are soldiers and the West are investors. (War investors in this case). From an investor standpoint a soldier is insane.
- SanjayMehta 9mo ago[flagged]
- kstenerud 9mo agoPutin is a symptom, not the problem. The problem is that Russia is the one surviving major imperialist state (as in annexing land) of the four that existed in the 1930s. We defeated the other three and rebuilt their constitutions, but we didn't have the manpower or the will to do this to Russia as well. And so, Russia continued in its imperialist tradition: Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine, and next Moldova and Lithuania if they're not stopped. The West naively believed that commerce would tame Russia, but an imperialist is never satisfied with riches and friends - only land gives them a true sense of status. And so we must learn this painful lesson yet again. Killing Putin would only make a temporary dent. The only way to stop this kind of beast is to destroy and rebuild like we did with Italy, Germany, and Japan.
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- clot27 9mo agoPutin is literally creation of west, they wanted USSR to fall so desperately but didn't think about its consequences, now all the former soviet countries are killing each other and doing ethnic cleansing of different groups inside their border.
- geo4449 9mo ago[flagged]
- rngfnby 9mo agoAnd how do you plan we do that? We can't beat the Houthis, but Im sure we'll be great vs. the most battle tested army since world war 2.