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Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good! Our development process has been interesting. Although just Ri

Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good! Our development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.

embedding-shape 8mo ago
> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff. However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?... For that example, the first problem is that there is no link to the source file from the disclosed files, which is strange, because most other emails have that. Secondly, this almost seems to be a "sponsored" email or something, as it has an ad in the top right corner reading "Sponsored by Drop Site News", but clicking that just takes you to some general page, with no clear information how that's related to the fake/injected email. Also, what does "Verified by X" actually mean, did they verify the authenticity of that specific email? There seems to be a bunch of people confused by those emails and wondering where they are coming from, because it's missing the source link like the others, so there doesn't seem to be a good way to verify those emails. Could you maybe share a bit about what's going on?
- 3rodents 8mo ago
  That’s just a campaign email with “Pedophiles” as the recipient name, right? Anyone can sign an email address up to a mailing list. All of Trump’s campaign emails are these type of overly friendly weird junk.
  - embedding-shape 8mo ago
    Sure, but the email itself doesn't seem to be a part of the archives of Epstein's emails (which would be an issue), it seems like it has been added manually by the admins of Jmail, as it's not coming from the files that were recently released.
    - 3rodents 8mo ago
      Jmail is a mix of sources. “The Jmail Suite is an interactive archive of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, documents, photos, and more. Data compiled from the House Oversight Committee, Department of Justice, and DDoSecrets releases” If I understand correctly, the emails you’re looking at are from a leak that is only accessible to journalists — so Drop Site News (as journalists) have access and have published some. https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails
      - lukeigel 8mo ago
        Correct. https://jmail.world/about https://jmail.world/about explains it all.
- lukeigel 8mo ago
  Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name. He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?... These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
  - lukeigel 8mo ago
    Also, that says "Verified by Drop Site News", not Sponsored by. That's because Drop Site redacted these real Yahoo emails and gave them to Jmail. The original Yahoo dataset, which the DOJ and House Oversight Committee did not release, is stewarded by DDoSecrets (https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails). This Yahoo dataset, which we helped release after launching the first Jmail, also proved Epstein's connection to Iran-Contra (!!). Now immortalized on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_troubleshooter_(1981%E2%80%931987) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_trou...)
    - bewertsam 8mo ago
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  - embedding-shape 8mo ago
    > These are all real emails! Why do the rest of the emails provide a link to the online file (original one hosted at justice.gov) but the "sponsored"/ad ones do not? This for example: https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox Has a "View Original Document" which takes you to kind-of-the-source (ideally should have been link to justice.gov but better than nothing I suppose), but for the emails with the Dropsite ad, it seems there is no original document?
    - lukeigel 8mo ago
      https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?... Many Yahoo emails do show you the original source, and the original is just an EML file. These were files directly exported from Epstein's Yahoo account. Bloomberg used these EMLs to confirm that the Yahoo emails are real (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstein-email-investigation-sheds-light-into-crimes-social-network https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstei...). We don't tamper with these EMLs, so we currently don't make the EML accessible if the team had to redact any contents of that email. See this for example. https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?... We can fix examples where there are no redactions yet no EML download is available
aizk 8mo ago
You guys are going to get a pultizer in journalism at this rate keep it up.
- croisillon 8mo ago
  or a FIFA Prize in Journalism at the very least
  - lostlogin 8mo ago
    Will have to be next year, this years Peace Prize has been taken. And beautifully self presented. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obyO4jg3XQI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obyO4jg3XQI
- belter 8mo ago
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wiseleo 8mo ago
Monumental and amazing work. Thank you!
CollinEMac 8mo ago
I'm curious what your operational costs are and how we can help. I don't see a donation link anywhere.
- aiddun 8mo ago
  https://jmail.world/donate https://jmail.world/donate
- mminer237 8mo ago
  Recently he said he had a $50k hosting bill but that the CEO of Vercel offered to cover them and help them start some optimization.
  - aaa_aaa 8mo ago
    I thought The CEO of Vercel was heavily criticized to befriend/support a war criminal.
    - skrebbel 8mo ago
      Both things can be true at once.
    - lostlogin 8mo ago
      Guillermo Rauch being photographed with Netanyahu? https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/415678 https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/415678
    - deleted 8mo ago
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- llbbdd 8mo ago
  I can think of some ways you could benefit the world without spending a cent
lenerdenator 8mo ago
I just wanted to say that you're doing really important work.
ddtaylor 8mo ago
You guys are doing awesome stuff. I was in the process of loading all of the documents into a vector database to query and then you dropped Jemini. I wanted to reach out and avoid duplication of efforts, but I didn't know the best person to reach out to for this or if this is anything that can be collaborated on.
upmind 8mo ago
Is it possible to make jmail open source? Would love to contribute! e.g., the search functionality is quite poor with little filtering available. Jtube doesn't let you sort by views etc etc
rrr_oh_man 8mo ago
Hey Luke, hijacking this: Are you planning to add date-sorted messages and deduplication/thread view at any point? I would love to help out, if needed.

embedding-shape 8mo ago

> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff. However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?... For that example, the first problem is that there is no link to the source file from the disclosed files, which is strange, because most other emails have that. Secondly, this almost seems to be a "sponsored" email or something, as it has an ad in the top right corner reading "Sponsored by Drop Site News", but clicking that just takes you to some general page, with no clear information how that's related to the fake/injected email. Also, what does "Verified by X" actually mean, did they verify the authenticity of that specific email? There seems to be a bunch of people confused by those emails and wondering where they are coming from, because it's missing the source link like the others, so there doesn't seem to be a good way to verify those emails. Could you maybe share a bit about what's going on?

3rodents 8mo ago
That’s just a campaign email with “Pedophiles” as the recipient name, right? Anyone can sign an email address up to a mailing list. All of Trump’s campaign emails are these type of overly friendly weird junk.
- embedding-shape 8mo ago
  Sure, but the email itself doesn't seem to be a part of the archives of Epstein's emails (which would be an issue), it seems like it has been added manually by the admins of Jmail, as it's not coming from the files that were recently released.
  - 3rodents 8mo ago
    Jmail is a mix of sources. “The Jmail Suite is an interactive archive of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, documents, photos, and more. Data compiled from the House Oversight Committee, Department of Justice, and DDoSecrets releases” If I understand correctly, the emails you’re looking at are from a leak that is only accessible to journalists — so Drop Site News (as journalists) have access and have published some. https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails
    - lukeigel 8mo ago
      Correct. https://jmail.world/about https://jmail.world/about explains it all.
lukeigel 8mo ago
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name. He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?... These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
- lukeigel 8mo ago
  Also, that says "Verified by Drop Site News", not Sponsored by. That's because Drop Site redacted these real Yahoo emails and gave them to Jmail. The original Yahoo dataset, which the DOJ and House Oversight Committee did not release, is stewarded by DDoSecrets (https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails). This Yahoo dataset, which we helped release after launching the first Jmail, also proved Epstein's connection to Iran-Contra (!!). Now immortalized on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_troubleshooter_(1981%E2%80%931987) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_trou...)
  - bewertsam 8mo ago
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- embedding-shape 8mo ago
  > These are all real emails! Why do the rest of the emails provide a link to the online file (original one hosted at justice.gov) but the "sponsored"/ad ones do not? This for example: https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox Has a "View Original Document" which takes you to kind-of-the-source (ideally should have been link to justice.gov but better than nothing I suppose), but for the emails with the Dropsite ad, it seems there is no original document?
  - lukeigel 8mo ago
    https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?... Many Yahoo emails do show you the original source, and the original is just an EML file. These were files directly exported from Epstein's Yahoo account. Bloomberg used these EMLs to confirm that the Yahoo emails are real (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstein-email-investigation-sheds-light-into-crimes-social-network https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstei...). We don't tamper with these EMLs, so we currently don't make the EML accessible if the team had to redact any contents of that email. See this for example. https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?view=inbox https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?... We can fix examples where there are no redactions yet no EML download is available

aizk 8mo ago

You guys are going to get a pultizer in journalism at this rate keep it up.

croisillon 8mo ago
or a FIFA Prize in Journalism at the very least
- lostlogin 8mo ago
  Will have to be next year, this years Peace Prize has been taken. And beautifully self presented. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obyO4jg3XQI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obyO4jg3XQI
belter 8mo ago
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wiseleo 8mo ago

Monumental and amazing work. Thank you!

CollinEMac 8mo ago

I'm curious what your operational costs are and how we can help. I don't see a donation link anywhere.

aiddun 8mo ago
https://jmail.world/donate https://jmail.world/donate
mminer237 8mo ago
Recently he said he had a $50k hosting bill but that the CEO of Vercel offered to cover them and help them start some optimization.
- aaa_aaa 8mo ago
  I thought The CEO of Vercel was heavily criticized to befriend/support a war criminal.
  - skrebbel 8mo ago
    Both things can be true at once.
  - lostlogin 8mo ago
    Guillermo Rauch being photographed with Netanyahu? https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/415678 https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/415678
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
llbbdd 8mo ago
I can think of some ways you could benefit the world without spending a cent

lenerdenator 8mo ago

I just wanted to say that you're doing really important work.

ddtaylor 8mo ago

You guys are doing awesome stuff. I was in the process of loading all of the documents into a vector database to query and then you dropped Jemini. I wanted to reach out and avoid duplication of efforts, but I didn't know the best person to reach out to for this or if this is anything that can be collaborated on.

upmind 8mo ago

Is it possible to make jmail open source? Would love to contribute! e.g., the search functionality is quite poor with little filtering available. Jtube doesn't let you sort by views etc etc

rrr_oh_man 8mo ago

Hey Luke, hijacking this: Are you planning to add date-sorted messages and deduplication/thread view at any point? I would love to help out, if needed.