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His claim there did not necessarily imply rigged explosives, but supply chain attacks either for surveillance or assassination purposes. And his limiting it to
by ivl 8mo ago
His claim there did not necessarily imply rigged explosives, but supply chain attacks either for surveillance or assassination purposes.
And his limiting it to "virtually every potential theater" would suggest that it's mostly present in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen, most likely Iraq as well.
But let's be honest here, this isn't civilian equipment that's been compromised. It's supply chain attacks where the buyer is manipulated into buying goods that they've tampered with, or re-engineered. They weren't pagers anyone could pick up at Radio Shack. (Everyone who got hit was a target, or a direct relative of a target.)
- SiempreViernes 8mo agoOr just standing next to someone in the line at the supermarket. Also, lets be clear and admit that if your notion of "target" is "anyone close to a device I sold years ago", you're not the type of person that cares if the balled up paper made it to the trash can: so long as it left your hand you would be satisfied.
- yes_really 8mo agoThe pager operation has been one of the most targeted ones in history for its size. The ratio of civilian by Hezbollah member casualties was very low compared to other military operations or a war.
- SiempreViernes 8mo agoThe perpetrators of pager attack had no way at all to know who would be closest to the pagers when they exploded, nor any way to know that the nominal owner of a particular pager were a combatant in the first place. So the perpetrators did not know they would actually hurt a lawful target, they just hoped it might. Anyway, stop supporting the genocide dude.
- yes_really 8mo agoOh yeah, just random chance that the Hezbollah combatants would have their military pagers close to them rather than with some random civilian. What an incredible coincidence!
- lorakamina 8mo agoGo get some life. I believe Hitler had the same mentality. Reducing casualty. He asked everyone to wear their stars if they had had circumcision and targeted them systematically. He could have bombed them all but decided to be more deliberate. Yes yes, flipping the script is antisemitism. Of course it is.
- yes_really 8mo agoCompletely bizarre how you are equating killing Hezbollah combatants (a terrorist group known for indiscriminately firing tens of thousands of rockets targeting civilians) with the Nazis exterminating millions of (obviously peaceful) Jewish people simply for being Jews.
- SiempreViernes 8mo agoYou keep repeating than an operation, functionally equivalent to poisoning the water in an area you have seen combatants, is "targeted". It simply isn't, and you are just lying to yourself to feel better about the war crimes you support.
- ivl 8mo agoI do not understand this analogy. A water source the entire population of an area relies upon is in no way the same as a specific, small organization's private means of communication that it distributed to its members. Or are you under the impression Israel simply loaded a Lebanese RadioShack with explosive pagers and hoped Hezbollah would be the ones buying them? You could argue that it was not discriminate because there were pagers distributed to civilian Hezbollah members, who may not have been valid targets, but that is not the same argument. Every bit of reporting on it tries heart-string tugging, just to quietly reveal one of the unintended targets picked up the pager to bring it to a Hezbollah member father, uncle, or brother.
- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 8mo ago>And his limiting it to "virtually every potential theater" would suggest that it's mostly present in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen, most likely Iraq as well. Except we don't know. "virtually every potential theater" is intentionally very vague language that could mean anything.
- lorakamina 8mo agoWhen Roman legions weren’t out killing others, they were in Rome doing a coup. What y’all armies do outside, they also do inside.