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Surrounded by enemies of their own creation. It’s a beautiful cycle of aggression and self-victimization; a true ouroboros. On the intelligence front, Mossad d
by Cyph0n 8mo ago
Surrounded by enemies of their own creation. It’s a beautiful cycle of aggression and self-victimization; a true ouroboros.
On the intelligence front, Mossad does a wonderful job performing extra-judicial killings using the dirtiest tricks you could think of. They’re also very good partners: almost every counter-intelligence outfit sings their praises.
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- hparadiz 8mo ago[flagged]
- bpt3 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War Start here, and then work your way both forwards and backwards if you have any interest in learning.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoWow thanks for the pointer, I had no idea! Eye opening stuff!
- bpt3 8mo agoYou apparently need it, given your illogical and inaccurate statements in this thread, but I won't hold my breath while waiting for you to accept that.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoFeel free to respond where you disagree for the benefit of those reading the thread. Btw, linking to a wiki page does not reflect any knowledge on your part. By not engaging with your own words, it is fair to default to assuming that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
- bpt3 8mo agoOthers have already done so since my initial comment and your response was either "nah" or to disengage, so I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who is clearly personally invested in a very specific narrative.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoOh, I was never interested in arguing with you at all given how you decided to start off this conversation. I was just pointing out that you can always respond and demonstrate your brilliance to readers of the thread.
- idop 8mo ago> Surrounded by enemies of their own creation. Step 1: Get 6 million of you systematically eradicated in Europe and hundreds of thousands more booted from their homes in the Middle East for "reasons". Step 2: Build yourself a country so no one can throw you out again. Step 3: Get attacked by the countries who threw you out for "reasons". Step 4: Get accused of "aggression". People's continued downplay and revisionism of Jewish and Israeli history is truly something to behold.
- hparadiz 8mo agoHow dare the Israelis not let themselves get genocided. The audacity.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoAt what point in its history was Israel ever in actual danger of being “genocided”? This rhetoric circles back to the self-victimization complex btw.
- idop 8mo agoEvery day since its first day as a state. There are several countries with billions of people whose stated, official objective is the destruction of Israel. Iran has giant countdown clocks and advertisements for the destruction of Israel. They have laws against peace with Israel. The Houthis literally have "Death to Israel" (and America) on their flag.
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- hparadiz 8mo agoInternet arguments are entirely irrelevant. This women is in a trench just for fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War#/media/File%3ANegba1948Defenses.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War#...
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- markus_zhang 8mo agoI don't disagree with you, but this is the reality already and I don't see how they can get out of it. I wouldn't hope for any long-term peace between IL and surrounding country without IL holding a very big stick which the US gives to them. I think actually they are in a bit of panic mode because the US might want to get out from the ME and focus on China. They want a guarantee that Iran won't be able to come on its foot again in at least 10 years. That's all my guess, though.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoSo the solution is for Israel to get an even bigger “stick” than nuclear weapons? How about a just solution for the Palestinians instead?
- markus_zhang 8mo agoWho is going to do that? Obviously not in anyone's interests. That is, anyone who can push the situation towards that direction.
- Cyph0n 8mo agoYou’re either missing my point or deflecting. Let me expand one last time. Israel claims to be threatened by its neighbors. Israel claims to want peace with countries in the region. Neighboring countries have repeatedly stated that a precondition to normalization is a just solution for Palestinians. But Israel does not want a just solution. In other words, the problem is entirely self-inflicted. Israel wants peace, but without making any concessions on the issue of Palestine. So instead it pursues a system of “peace through violence” - just like it does in the West Bank and Gaza.
- throw2845893 8mo agoThis is bullshit. Between 1948 and 1967 the entire West Bank and Gaza were under control of neighbouring Arab countries. They could’ve set up a Palestinian state within “the 1967 borders”, but nobody did. Instead they went to war to try and take the rest. Besides, Israel has since made peace with Egypt and Jordan.