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Serverless means spinning compute resources up on demand in the cloud vs. running a server permanently.

by cachius 8mo ago

dsr_ 8mo ago
~99.995% of the computing resources used on this are from somebody else's servers, running the LLM model.
locknitpicker 8mo ago
> Serverless means spinning compute resources up on demand in the cloud vs. running a server permanently. Not quite. Serverless means you can run a server permanently, but you need pay someone else to manage the infrastructure for you.
- turtlebits 8mo ago
  Close. It means there's no persistent infra charges and you're charged on use. You dont run anything permanently.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
    It still doesn't capture the concept because, say, both AWS Lambda and EC2 can be run just for 5 minutes and only one of them is called serverless.
    - Stefan-H 8mo ago
      Unless the engineer takes steps to spin down EC2 infrastructure after execution, it is absolutely persistent compute that you're billed for whether you are doing actual processing or not. Whereas lambda and other services are billed only for execution time.
- jwiz 8mo ago
  Depends if you mean "server" as in piece of metal (or vm), or as in "a daemon"
- Stefan-H 8mo ago
  You might be conflating "cloud" with serverless. Serverless is where developers can focus on code, with little care of the infrastructure it runs on, and is pay-as-you-go.
  - locknitpicker 8mo ago
    > You might be conflating "cloud" with serverless. Serverless is where developers can focus on code, with little care of the infrastructure it runs on, and is pay-as-you-go. That's not what serverless means at all. Most function-as-a-service offerings require developers to bother about infrastructure aspects, such as runtimes and even underlying OS. They just don't bother about managing it. They deploy their code on their choice of infrastructure, and go on with their lives.
    - Stefan-H 8mo ago
      A runtime is notably NOT infrastructure, had you said instruction set you might have landed closer to making a compelling argument, but the whole point is that AWS (and other providers) abstract away the underlying infrastructure and allow the developers to as I said, have "little care of the infrastructure it runs on". There is often advanced networking that CAN be configured, as well as other infrastructure components developers can choose to configure.

Serverless means spinning compute resources up on demand in the cloud vs. running a server permanently.

by cachius 8mo ago

Serverless means spinning compute resources up on demand in the cloud vs. running a server permanently.

dsr_ 8mo ago

~99.995% of the computing resources used on this are from somebody else's servers, running the LLM model.

locknitpicker 8mo ago

> Serverless means spinning compute resources up on demand in the cloud vs. running a server permanently. Not quite. Serverless means you can run a server permanently, but you need pay someone else to manage the infrastructure for you.

turtlebits 8mo ago
Close. It means there's no persistent infra charges and you're charged on use. You dont run anything permanently.
- dvfjsdhgfv 8mo ago
  It still doesn't capture the concept because, say, both AWS Lambda and EC2 can be run just for 5 minutes and only one of them is called serverless.
  - Stefan-H 8mo ago
    Unless the engineer takes steps to spin down EC2 infrastructure after execution, it is absolutely persistent compute that you're billed for whether you are doing actual processing or not. Whereas lambda and other services are billed only for execution time.
jwiz 8mo ago
Depends if you mean "server" as in piece of metal (or vm), or as in "a daemon"
Stefan-H 8mo ago
You might be conflating "cloud" with serverless. Serverless is where developers can focus on code, with little care of the infrastructure it runs on, and is pay-as-you-go.
- locknitpicker 8mo ago
  > You might be conflating "cloud" with serverless. Serverless is where developers can focus on code, with little care of the infrastructure it runs on, and is pay-as-you-go. That's not what serverless means at all. Most function-as-a-service offerings require developers to bother about infrastructure aspects, such as runtimes and even underlying OS. They just don't bother about managing it. They deploy their code on their choice of infrastructure, and go on with their lives.
  - Stefan-H 8mo ago
    A runtime is notably NOT infrastructure, had you said instruction set you might have landed closer to making a compelling argument, but the whole point is that AWS (and other providers) abstract away the underlying infrastructure and allow the developers to as I said, have "little care of the infrastructure it runs on". There is often advanced networking that CAN be configured, as well as other infrastructure components developers can choose to configure.