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Energy bills wouldn't be the problem if everyone used AI, energy supply would be.
by _heimdall 8mo ago
Energy bills wouldn't be the problem if everyone used AI, energy supply would be.
- catmanjan 8mo agoAre you sure? I thought tokens (or watts) were sold at such a loss that if current supply limits were reached they’d go broke
- mholm 8mo agoThe entire marginal cost to serve AI models is paid for by the API costs of all providers by nearly every estimation. The cost not currently recouped is entirely in the training and net-new infrastructure that they're building.
- catmanjan 8mo agoSo why are they banning people from using it in systems like claw?
- Breza 8mo agoAnd the open source models are only months behind, so the big AI companies need to keep burning money on R&D with no end in sight. If OpenAI took a quarter off from model development, they might fall behind forever.
- nsvd2 8mo agoThese companies are generally profitable for inference but it does not cover the cost of R&D (training).
- catmanjan 8mo agoIf its profitable why are they banning people from using it in systems like claw?
- nsvd2 8mo agoAfter a quick search it looks like Google is banning some people who are using Antigravity OAuth with OpenClaw as opposed to paying for API access. I can't find any instance of an API which charges per-token banning users.