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Let me remind you of three things: 1) This weaker neighbor is aided and funded by a block of countries with a total population of 1b, 6 times that of Russia. 2)

Let me remind you of three things: 1) This weaker neighbor is aided and funded by a block of countries with a total population of 1b, 6 times that of Russia. 2) The same block is doing all it can to crash the Russian economy. 3) Nevertheless, this union of a weak neighbor + 1b block is steadily loosing land.

wiseowise 8mo ago
> This weaker neighbor is aided and funded by a block of countries with a total population of 1b, 6 times that of Russia. 'Aided and funded' literally a fractional percent of their economies over five years. > The same block is doing all it can to crash the Russian economy I severely doubt about "all it can" part. > Nevertheless, this union of a weak neighbor + 1b block is steadily loosing land. Less than percent a year since 2023. This is a shockingly bad performance for a country to that considered themselves rival to China/Europe/US. As to "+ 1b block" it's like that joke goes: "Russia v NATO war. Russian status: 1 mil casualties. NATO status: hasn't arrived yet."
- sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
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  - wiseowise 8mo ago
    > Yes, extensively aided and funded, no matter how you try to avoid this fact I literally gave you the number, this is the fact: West has provided less than percent of their economies over 5 years. > Russia has more sanctions applied that any country ever did. That's what attacking your neighbour does, yes. And it's far, far from 'all it can' part. > Still it is Russia gaining land and NATO ally, which runs on NATO money and NATO weapons, retreating. Russia took less than percent of Ukrainian soil every year after initial shock gains. This is hilariously bad performance for the great power that fights against donated scraps. It's not even high end tech (F-35s, last gen Euro-fighters). > NATO has arrived indeed. NATO ally (or protectorate) has huge and obvious manpower loss. Does NATO know it has arrived?
    - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
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      - ihqtedumpcucks 8mo ago
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    - brabel 8mo ago
      You seem to believe the West is doing very little to help Ukraine. You say they only contribute a tiny fraction of their economy, but you ignore that that fraction is coming on top of their own budgets which are already quite constrained as well as increased spending on their own militaries due to the situation + pressure by the US, and that many countries, especially Germany, lost an enormous amount of money by becoming severely less competitive after rejecting Russian oil and gas , which had made energy prices much lower before the war. What do you think Europe can do more? Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that!
      - wiseowise 8mo ago
        GP said Western block (+1bn people) are fighting with Ukrainians against Russians which is factually incorrect. Everything in your comment about my assumptions is just a figment of your imagination. > Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that! I see, another one. I must've rattled the hive with my comment, haha.
- lnsru 8mo ago
  Don’t feed the troll.
  - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
    An easy way to dismiss an opinion you do not like. Why exactly are you calling me a troll?
    - ihqtedumpcucks 8mo ago
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    - fractallyte 8mo ago
      Because your first comment is inflammatory, and wrong. Ukraine is far from being a "weaker neighbor" – it's proven to have more of a backbone than all of NATO. And that "loosing land" part which seems so compelling: those are strategic withdrawals, forcing russians to haemorrhage men and equipment for Pyrrhic advances. Right now, those advances are being reversed: AFU is making significant gains around Zaporizhzhia, and massing troops near Kharkiv for possibly another major offensive.
      - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
        1. Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else. 2. Loosing land is pure math. About 500 sq.km per month, often more. Ukrainian advances remain to be an illusion.
        wiseowise 8mo ago
        > Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else. So Soviet “heroes” were just a manforce and USSR was a manforce provider for lend lease, right?
myko 8mo ago
I wish they were aided and funded properly - this war would have been over in 3 days had they been so, and not in Putin's favor.
- sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
  They were aided and funded as much as the NATO block could and still can do that.
  - myko 8mo ago
    Not even close :) the US handed over equipment it was going to destroy. If the US put 20% into Ukraine as it did into Iraq the war would be over in Ukraine's favor
Ylpertnodi 8mo ago
> Nevertheless, this union of a weak neighbor + 1b block is steadily loosing land. Last I saw (this weekend), the union of Ukraine+friends, was losing land at about 50-75 metres a day. As well as bopping off 35,000 enemy combatants a month off the 2026 Christmas party list. And russia can't (or haven't) matched those losses with recruitment. a single soldier, perhaps two, sent 20km into opposing territory (the advance, the territory gained) doesn't mean actually controlling the ground. Just ask Vlad.
- sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
  If Russia looses 35000 a month, why does Ukraine: a) Loose land and cities constantly b) Mobilize people brutally on streets c) Keep its bordera closed for men No, in such situation it should be reversed.
  - philistine 8mo ago
    That's the type of stuff that happens when you're at war. Would you rather Ukraine fight this war with the intent to lose? Russia is fighting to win, why can't Ukraine?
    - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
      So Russia has catastrophic losses yet there's no mobilization. Ukraine is said to loose very few men, yet they have to beat people on streets to mobilize them. Meanwhile, Russian borders are open.
      - philistine 8mo ago
        Dude, I was always told that Russia could just roll to Berlin because of all the remaining might of the Soviet Union. I read books by authors like Tom Clancy that lionized Russian might. And here we are in 2026. An inconsequential country like Ukraine only has to beat people up in the streets and close their borders for men and they can reduce the speed of the Russian bear to meters per day. Make sure all your nukes are working, cause clearly not much else is impressive in your military.
tokai 8mo ago
Gaining land slower than the Germans were towards the end of ww1. Significantly slower.
- sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
  So, the entire NATO is proud to loose land to Russia slowly?
  - dh2022 8mo ago
    NATO is not involved at all. If NATO got involved the conventional war in the Ukraine would be over in less than a year (and maybe a nuclear war would start …)
    - sigwinch 8mo ago
      Moreover, NATO is justified to do whatever it takes to keep Russia from auctioning its stockpile. That means protecting it from internal collapse, not winning too decisively, even benefitting Putin when necessary. With START falling apart, Russia lost a tool that was buying some time.
    - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
      NATO is involved by both weapons and money. These are main things that let a war go on. Ukraine's role is a limited and minor one: providing manpower. (NATO also provides some manpower, BTW).
      - dh2022 8mo ago
        ‘[weapons and money] these are the main things that let a war go.’ - your reply is not serious. Your reply did not include manpower as the main thing in war.
        sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
        Manpower is no longer the main thing in war since invention of swords and shields. Money and weapons are crucial.

wiseowise 8mo ago

> This weaker neighbor is aided and funded by a block of countries with a total population of 1b, 6 times that of Russia. 'Aided and funded' literally a fractional percent of their economies over five years. > The same block is doing all it can to crash the Russian economy I severely doubt about "all it can" part. > Nevertheless, this union of a weak neighbor + 1b block is steadily loosing land. Less than percent a year since 2023. This is a shockingly bad performance for a country to that considered themselves rival to China/Europe/US. As to "+ 1b block" it's like that joke goes: "Russia v NATO war. Russian status: 1 mil casualties. NATO status: hasn't arrived yet."

sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
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- wiseowise 8mo ago
  > Yes, extensively aided and funded, no matter how you try to avoid this fact I literally gave you the number, this is the fact: West has provided less than percent of their economies over 5 years. > Russia has more sanctions applied that any country ever did. That's what attacking your neighbour does, yes. And it's far, far from 'all it can' part. > Still it is Russia gaining land and NATO ally, which runs on NATO money and NATO weapons, retreating. Russia took less than percent of Ukrainian soil every year after initial shock gains. This is hilariously bad performance for the great power that fights against donated scraps. It's not even high end tech (F-35s, last gen Euro-fighters). > NATO has arrived indeed. NATO ally (or protectorate) has huge and obvious manpower loss. Does NATO know it has arrived?
  - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
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    - ihqtedumpcucks 8mo ago
      [flagged]
  - brabel 8mo ago
    You seem to believe the West is doing very little to help Ukraine. You say they only contribute a tiny fraction of their economy, but you ignore that that fraction is coming on top of their own budgets which are already quite constrained as well as increased spending on their own militaries due to the situation + pressure by the US, and that many countries, especially Germany, lost an enormous amount of money by becoming severely less competitive after rejecting Russian oil and gas , which had made energy prices much lower before the war. What do you think Europe can do more? Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that!
    - wiseowise 8mo ago
      GP said Western block (+1bn people) are fighting with Ukrainians against Russians which is factually incorrect. Everything in your comment about my assumptions is just a figment of your imagination. > Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that! I see, another one. I must've rattled the hive with my comment, haha.
lnsru 8mo ago
Don’t feed the troll.
- sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
  An easy way to dismiss an opinion you do not like. Why exactly are you calling me a troll?
  - ihqtedumpcucks 8mo ago
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  - fractallyte 8mo ago
    Because your first comment is inflammatory, and wrong. Ukraine is far from being a "weaker neighbor" – it's proven to have more of a backbone than all of NATO. And that "loosing land" part which seems so compelling: those are strategic withdrawals, forcing russians to haemorrhage men and equipment for Pyrrhic advances. Right now, those advances are being reversed: AFU is making significant gains around Zaporizhzhia, and massing troops near Kharkiv for possibly another major offensive.
    - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
      1. Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else. 2. Loosing land is pure math. About 500 sq.km per month, often more. Ukrainian advances remain to be an illusion.
      - wiseowise 8mo ago
        > Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else. So Soviet “heroes” were just a manforce and USSR was a manforce provider for lend lease, right?

myko 8mo ago

I wish they were aided and funded properly - this war would have been over in 3 days had they been so, and not in Putin's favor.

sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
They were aided and funded as much as the NATO block could and still can do that.
- myko 8mo ago
  Not even close :) the US handed over equipment it was going to destroy. If the US put 20% into Ukraine as it did into Iraq the war would be over in Ukraine's favor

Ylpertnodi 8mo ago

> Nevertheless, this union of a weak neighbor + 1b block is steadily loosing land. Last I saw (this weekend), the union of Ukraine+friends, was losing land at about 50-75 metres a day. As well as bopping off 35,000 enemy combatants a month off the 2026 Christmas party list. And russia can't (or haven't) matched those losses with recruitment. a single soldier, perhaps two, sent 20km into opposing territory (the advance, the territory gained) doesn't mean actually controlling the ground. Just ask Vlad.

sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
If Russia looses 35000 a month, why does Ukraine: a) Loose land and cities constantly b) Mobilize people brutally on streets c) Keep its bordera closed for men No, in such situation it should be reversed.
- philistine 8mo ago
  That's the type of stuff that happens when you're at war. Would you rather Ukraine fight this war with the intent to lose? Russia is fighting to win, why can't Ukraine?
  - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
    So Russia has catastrophic losses yet there's no mobilization. Ukraine is said to loose very few men, yet they have to beat people on streets to mobilize them. Meanwhile, Russian borders are open.
    - philistine 8mo ago
      Dude, I was always told that Russia could just roll to Berlin because of all the remaining might of the Soviet Union. I read books by authors like Tom Clancy that lionized Russian might. And here we are in 2026. An inconsequential country like Ukraine only has to beat people up in the streets and close their borders for men and they can reduce the speed of the Russian bear to meters per day. Make sure all your nukes are working, cause clearly not much else is impressive in your military.

tokai 8mo ago

Gaining land slower than the Germans were towards the end of ww1. Significantly slower.

sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
So, the entire NATO is proud to loose land to Russia slowly?
- dh2022 8mo ago
  NATO is not involved at all. If NATO got involved the conventional war in the Ukraine would be over in less than a year (and maybe a nuclear war would start …)
  - sigwinch 8mo ago
    Moreover, NATO is justified to do whatever it takes to keep Russia from auctioning its stockpile. That means protecting it from internal collapse, not winning too decisively, even benefitting Putin when necessary. With START falling apart, Russia lost a tool that was buying some time.
  - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
    NATO is involved by both weapons and money. These are main things that let a war go on. Ukraine's role is a limited and minor one: providing manpower. (NATO also provides some manpower, BTW).
    - dh2022 8mo ago
      ‘[weapons and money] these are the main things that let a war go.’ - your reply is not serious. Your reply did not include manpower as the main thing in war.
      - sedan_baklazhan 8mo ago
        Manpower is no longer the main thing in war since invention of swords and shields. Money and weapons are crucial.