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This is a much more succinct explanation than my own. This is the point I was trying to make. Even given that I have a good bit of sysadmin skills, I am needed
by gtaylor 14y ago
This is a much more succinct explanation than my own. This is the point I was trying to make.
Even given that I have a good bit of sysadmin skills, I am needed more as a software developer right now in the early goings. I expect, as you've pointed out, that priorities will change with time and growth. We may even move to bare metal eventually, if we find ourselves needing and able to do so.
Excellent analogy.
- peterwwillis 14y agoSo to summarize you both: You want a rapid development platform that doubles as a production system and costs nothing to maintain. That does sound useful!
- gtaylor 14y agoWhat? Did you read any of what was written? Point-by-point breakdown for you: > You want a rapid development platform No, we want low-maintenance infrastructure. > that doubles as a production system It is a production system. It does successfully serve many thousands of users for us every day. We've yet to have an outage that wasn't our own fault. > and costs nothing to maintain What? I specifically said we're willing to pay more not to have to spend as much time on infrastructure. It's OK if you're too set in your ways to even attempt to level with alternative points of view, but at least try to read a little more thoroughly. And maybe admit that you're not willing to budge, so nobody wastes time trying to explain an alternative point of view.
- peterwwillis 14y agoI wasn't dismissing your point of view. Heroku is what I described. AWS, to a certain extent, is what I described. And I said it was a production system, too; you didn't have to over-emphasize what I had already said, as if I didn't just say it. "Costs nothing to maintain" is in comparison to paying to maintain it yourself. But thanks for knee-jerking.