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Somehow there is a lot less discussion online about Thiel and Musk, both of whom are in the Epstein files. These are the most powerful people on the planet, ste

Somehow there is a lot less discussion online about Thiel and Musk, both of whom are in the Epstein files. These are the most powerful people on the planet, steering elections at every level in America through their spending and connections. They need to be outed. Thiel appears to be a Russian asset since he meets with Russians at Epstein’s properties per the files. Musk is different. He simply begs Epstein to let Musk and his then wife Talulah Riley attend the “wildest party” on the island. Epstein even warns him that the “ratio” on the island may not be to his wife’s liking but Musk insists on coming to such a party. Their approaches to defend themselves are different too. Thiel is silent. Musk has made huge numbers of posts, retweets, and replies trying to pretend he’s not part of the Epstein class, pointing fingers at others, and claiming he’s never been to the island. And he hasn’t ever explained why he was asking Epstein about the wildest parties. Keep in mind that Elon was asking Epstein about these island parties years after Epstein was already a convicted child sex offender. He knew what was happening and wanted in.

profsummergig 9mo ago
People talk about "inbox zero". I want to learn "inbox Epstein". Somehow, this guy had time to have regular email conversations with about 1,000 of the most powerful people in the planet (the head of the Nobel Prize Committee was one). And he did this before LLMs.
- pjc50 9mo ago
  You can answer a lot more email if you type badly. And don't care about not recording federal crimes in a durable medium.
  - spacebanana7 9mo ago
    There were some occasions he replied to questions as "not for email".
- Ancalagon 9mo ago
  Almost like he had a couple secretaries
- dyauspitr 9mo ago
  The trick is to keep it short and send off your first attempt at it. Takes a few seconds.
keernan 9mo ago
Both members of the South African contingent of the Paypal Mafia
- SilverElfin 9mo ago
  What are the chances that AI czar / All In podcast host David Sacks had NO IDEA that his close friends Musk and Thiel were Epstein affiliated?
deepsun 9mo ago
Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO. Even though I cannot stand buffone Musk, it looks like it to me. Thiel and especially Trump though are very different story. Trump happily dived in all the crime he could get.
- rsynnott 9mo ago
  > Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO. ... Wait, okay, I realise Musk isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but just how stupid do you think he is? Anyone corresponding with Epstein after his first conviction knew very well the sort of person they were dealing with; they just didn't care.
  - ZeroGravitas 9mo ago
    Example of the kind of stuff easily findable in 2006 if you ask an underling who knows how to Google to check out the guy throwing sex parties you want to attend: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sex/billionaire-palm-beach-sex-scandal https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sex/billionaire-palm...
    - rsynnott 9mo ago
      Oh, yeah, if you were to do any due diligence (which you probably _should_, as a billionaire intending to go to sex parties) the red flags were there long before. But the first conviction really removed any vestiges of plausible deniability.
  - ben_w 9mo ago
    Well… judging by his behaviour on all the times he's been told "no" by domain experts, and that random reward schedules are highly addictive (which in this context means "on some occasions he's even correct when he tells experts he knows better"), I think it's very plausible that someone told him what Epstein was and he ignored and/or fired them for doing so because he didn't want it to be the case. But that's the positive spin, where Musk actually didn't know and was simply an idiot, and at this point I'm tired of giving him the benefit of the doubt.
weare138 9mo ago
Musk's brother Kimbal had close ties to Epstein too.
- ZeroGravitas 9mo ago
  Which I found amazing when one of Musk's tweets to defend himself was to say that if he wanted to have creepy sex parties he could just throw them himself and not need a loser like Epstein involved. What a way to totally burn your brother.

profsummergig 9mo ago

People talk about "inbox zero". I want to learn "inbox Epstein". Somehow, this guy had time to have regular email conversations with about 1,000 of the most powerful people in the planet (the head of the Nobel Prize Committee was one). And he did this before LLMs.

pjc50 9mo ago
You can answer a lot more email if you type badly. And don't care about not recording federal crimes in a durable medium.
- spacebanana7 9mo ago
  There were some occasions he replied to questions as "not for email".
Ancalagon 9mo ago
Almost like he had a couple secretaries
dyauspitr 9mo ago
The trick is to keep it short and send off your first attempt at it. Takes a few seconds.

keernan 9mo ago

Both members of the South African contingent of the Paypal Mafia

SilverElfin 9mo ago
What are the chances that AI czar / All In podcast host David Sacks had NO IDEA that his close friends Musk and Thiel were Epstein affiliated?

deepsun 9mo ago

Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO. Even though I cannot stand buffone Musk, it looks like it to me. Thiel and especially Trump though are very different story. Trump happily dived in all the crime he could get.

rsynnott 9mo ago
> Well, I can accept that Musk didn't know about criminal stuff and just thought it's like a Burning Man and had a big FOMO. ... Wait, okay, I realise Musk isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but just how stupid do you think he is? Anyone corresponding with Epstein after his first conviction knew very well the sort of person they were dealing with; they just didn't care.
- ZeroGravitas 9mo ago
  Example of the kind of stuff easily findable in 2006 if you ask an underling who knows how to Google to check out the guy throwing sex parties you want to attend: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sex/billionaire-palm-beach-sex-scandal https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sex/billionaire-palm...
  - rsynnott 9mo ago
    Oh, yeah, if you were to do any due diligence (which you probably _should_, as a billionaire intending to go to sex parties) the red flags were there long before. But the first conviction really removed any vestiges of plausible deniability.
- ben_w 9mo ago
  Well… judging by his behaviour on all the times he's been told "no" by domain experts, and that random reward schedules are highly addictive (which in this context means "on some occasions he's even correct when he tells experts he knows better"), I think it's very plausible that someone told him what Epstein was and he ignored and/or fired them for doing so because he didn't want it to be the case. But that's the positive spin, where Musk actually didn't know and was simply an idiot, and at this point I'm tired of giving him the benefit of the doubt.

weare138 9mo ago

Musk's brother Kimbal had close ties to Epstein too.

ZeroGravitas 9mo ago
Which I found amazing when one of Musk's tweets to defend himself was to say that if he wanted to have creepy sex parties he could just throw them himself and not need a loser like Epstein involved. What a way to totally burn your brother.