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Somebody a while back on HN compared sharing AI chat transcripts as the equivalent of telling everyone all about that “amazing dream you had last night”.
by vunderba 9mo ago
Somebody a while back on HN compared sharing AI chat transcripts as the equivalent of telling everyone all about that “amazing dream you had last night”.
- 486sx33 9mo ago[dead]
- echelon 9mo ago[flagged]
- protocolture 9mo ago>But what you're specifically watching here is two brains from two entirely different species communicating and working together. No this is a dude playing with his chatbot.
- echelon 9mo agoThis is just some short polymer chains in a chemical soup. Everything starts as a toy. Look at early computing.
- protocolture 9mo agoConversely, I was party to every part of crypto hype and there are some amazing parallels, like right now when people start pretending to be philosophical greeting cards instead of making concrete statements.
- signatoremo 9mo agoEven as a tech person I never had any use for crypto. Never heard mention of crypto outside or the tech bubble. AI? Everyone and their dog have at least tried it, from kids in middle school to housekeepers. It’s even more common than the internet was pre 2000.
- protocolture 9mo agoIf its that great it doesn't need weird people advocating for it in comment sections pretending to be buddha or an alien intelligence from an Arthur C Clarke novel.
- echelon 9mo agoI never had a use for crypto. I'm making movies with VFX now. (I've been a photons on glass filmmaker for over a decade. This tech rocks.) I'm basically automating my work and acting as a senior manager. Claude can write my code in my style 100x faster than me. I'm reviewing the code, making adjustments - that means I have to pay back the efficiency gain, but overall this is easily a doubling of my productivity. I'm making music and images and I've never been able to do those things. I suck at graphics design - now I can actually do it. Google search sucks. Complicated searches had become impossible. Now I can ask very obscure and hard questions and easily verify the LLM results. We've effectively jumped 50 years in tech capability, it feels like. I feel like I'm living in the future. This is only the beginning, too. I don't care if you use AI. In fact, I'm better off if you don't. That gives me even more of an edge. Please stay away from AI. I'll keep using it.
- rounce 9mo ago> I'm making music and images and I've never been able to do those things. I suck at graphics design - now I can actually do it. I’d argue you still can’t do it, you just have access to cheap enough labour that you can afford to have it done for you on a scale which you couldn’t before. However seeing as you haven’t developed those skills in the first place you also lack the ability to make any deep critique of the output you are given. Instead of guiding it in the way someone experienced would, you’re still the client, except now you’re the client of a machine.
- jacquesm 9mo agoYou and every two bit poser, that's the problem. Whatever edge you had as a 'photons on glass filmmaker' is now completely gone. The one thing you should hope for is that it wasn't your skill that was the moat but your ability to tell stories. If not then your goose is utterly cooked because those skills are now so trivial to come by they no longer serve as a barrier to entry for those that are dedicated to the art. So your fine works will drown in slop.
- protocolture 9mo agoI use plenty of AI, I just don't go around making weird pseudo-intellectual semi-philosophical statements about it. And as you have pivoted to "Its a really good technology/tool" from "This is an alien brain" I understand that you have completely given up on that framing. Or maybe it fell outside your context window, lmao.
- card_zero 9mo ago> Everything starts as a toy Especially toys. Toys overwhelmingly start as toys.
- Brian_K_White 9mo agoYou're watching someone press buttons on an mp3 player and calling it a religious experience.
- donkeybeer 9mo agoWhat do you think humans are made of other than molecules and electrical signals?
- Brian_K_White 9mo agoWhy do you think what a thing is made of matters? That's nothing more than it's paint job.
- donkeybeer 9mo agoYour comment seemed to imply being dismissive of a computer program or some other physical system having life.
- Brian_K_White 9mo agoIt did no such thing.
- andsoitis 9mo ago> This is the spark of fire that kicked off civilization. How can the now influence the past?
- perching_aix 9mo agoI guess they were (unknowingly?) quoting Tom Scott, unless he himself was also doing the same: https://youtu.be/jPhJbKBuNnA?t=384 https://youtu.be/jPhJbKBuNnA?t=384
- extraduder_ire 9mo agoI think he was quoting some unknown person, since the made the same comparison shortly before on an episode of Safety Third.
- timonoko 9mo agoThe most famous literary expression of this idea comes from F. Scott Fitzgerald in The Great Gatsby. While discussing the tedious nature of listening to others recount their dreams, there is a general literary consensus often attributed to him (and other authors like Mark Twain or Henry James) that: "Nothing is more boring than other people’s dreams." -- by Gemini
- aleph_minus_one 9mo ago> "Nothing is more boring than other people’s dreams." I disagree. Often their dreams are more interesting than their boring stories about some their "real life" situations, or - God forbid - their gossip. I would even claim that at least for the phase in my life when I kept a diary of my dreams, and thus got much more observant of my dreams, I did have (somewhat) interesting dreams (even for other people), for example - dreaming two dreams in parallel (it's basically like having two desktop applications open at the same time) - having a dream where I additionally have a dream inside it (and I am aware of the latter); it does in my opinion not really feel like the Inception movie, but rather like the feeling of playing a video game where you are basically both a person who plays a video game in which you control a video game character (and are aware of this), and the character inside the video game.
- timonoko 9mo agoNothing more fun than telling your dreams to ChatGPT. Especially if it already has learned the details of the dream-world you are often living in.
- p_v_doom 9mo agoExcept sometimes you get absolutely banger dreams.
- jacquesm 9mo agoI still don't want to know.