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Peter Thiel: 2,436 emails with Epstein from 2014 to 2019
- michelangelo 9mo agoSeems the Antichrist is way closer to him than he thinks. /s (but not much)
- cjbenedikt 9mo agoGreta??? ;-p
- cjbenedikt 9mo agoDownvoted? PT fans I guess.:)
- metalman 9mo agoclose? you could say they were right up each others ass, twice a day
- barbarr 9mo agoI can't believe he was calling Greta a potential antichrist when there's... this
- problemch1ld 9mo agoSuch efforts are just an SEO/media manipulation game for Thiel. Try and spread a mind virus, see if a "flock" forms behind him.
- estearum 9mo agoNo, some people are actually nutjobs with nutjob beliefs.
- vintermann 9mo agoSure they are, but Thiel is not one of them. Or rather, there's little reason to think the nutjob beliefs he presents to you are his sincerely held nutjob beliefs. You run into people sometimes, where you realize they're testing the waters constantly to figure out where they have you and what they can get away with.
- estearum 9mo agoNah, I've met him. He believes plenty of nutjob shit.
- mindslight 9mo agoTraditional response to a non-rich person saying nutjob shit: Are you a fucking idiot? Traditional response to a rich person saying nutjob shit: That's really interesting, especially as it connects to this thing I am working on that needs funding Facebook's modern response to anyone saying nutjob shit: Check out this other nutjob shit ChatGPT's modern response to anyone saying nutjob shit: You've nailed it. You're thinking about this exactly how a professional philosopher would.
- vintermann 9mo agoOne thing we learned from the Epstein documents was that he was very good at controlling people's perception of him. It would be wrong, for instance, to think his derisive use of "goy" was reflective of real beliefs. He just found it useful to come across that way to some people. He took pride in "befriending" both Røed-Larsen (architect of the Oslo agreement, moderate on Israel) and Noam Chomsky (big Israel critic) at the same time he was shooting the shit with ethnic supremacists. I assume Peter Thiel, and many similar people, are basically the same. If less competent at it. That you've met him doesn't mean you know his sincere beliefs - I think a good default assumption is that he doesn't have many, since sincere beliefs get in the way of getting the kind of power he has.
- estearum 9mo ago
- vintermann 9mo agoI know a couple of other politicians as well where I say over and over again, that's not them being a blowhard, that's a trial balloon. They're testing the water for how much of a lunatic blowhard it's profitable to be. These people want to fill Trump's shoes when he's gone, that's very obvious. But I think - and hope - that Trump's fans will notice what they're doing and not be charmed by it.
- problemch1ld 9mo ago[flagged]
- netsharc 9mo agoOn the topic of projection, I wonder where the "Pizzagate!" frothing-at-the-mouth QAnon geniuses are, now that the actual sex-child-trafficking conspiracy has been revealed, just that it involves their champion fascists. Hah at one point they were saying an online furniture shop is a website for trafficking children hiding in plain sight, using coded messages to describe said children (something like "leather sofa" meaning "blonde teenager" or some insanity like that). Come on you freaking geniuses, the Epstein emails show that they don't need codes on a public website, they just talk to each other in plain speech, but over email!
- sph 9mo agoA child-trafficking conspiracy was a total fabrication, meanwhile a major child-trafficking conspiracy was happening under everybody’s noses. What a coincidence, huh? Seems to me, like all legends, it started on a kernel of truth, then it evolved into something of its own. Not sure why you believe Pizzagate to be totally unrelated to Epstein.
- ZeroGravitas 9mo agoBut Epstein met the guy in charge of 4Chan the day before /pol got created to "contain" the fascists. And that's where QAnon started. So now we have meta-conspiracy theories about who started conspiracy theories.
- rcxdude 9mo agoThe issue with pizzagate (and a lot of these conspiracy theories) is not that it was directionally incorrect about 'some heinous shit is going down' (which is a good cold reading any day of the week in any age), it's that it jumped to specific and often just unhinged conclusions from basically zero evidence. The latter part tending to both create more problems and give cover to the existing ones.
- jacquesm 9mo agoNo, the only issue is that it was a purposeful distraction from the real heinous shit. The rest is a distraction from the fact that it was a distraction.
- vintermann 9mo agoApropos Greta Thunberg, I noticed on the top of the "no stupid questions" subreddit the question "How can people like Greta Thunberg afford to be a full time activist?". The submitter was a one-month old account, one of their posts was in the whatismycqs subreddit - a sure tell for bot/farm accounts.
- wolvesechoes 9mo agoYet it is rather serious question - most people spent most of their time to sustain themselves. I think that it is pretty bad for democracy that political action is delegated to only those few that are able to gain sponsorship and don't need to work to eat. We do not need professional activists, quite the contrary.
- ben_w 9mo ago> most people spent most of their time to sustain themselves Do they? Or do they get convinced by adverts that their lives won't be complete unless they spend more than they can afford on an endless stream of shiny promises? I've always found it very easy to put a huge fraction of my income to one side because all my hobbies are cheap or free. I've sometimes expressed surprise at how much other people buy, or spend regularly, and in one case the response was approximately "of course I need to spend £2500/month after my mortgage, there's the £50/month phone and same for internet, there's Netflix, I eat out twice a week, there's the car (which I like taking across the channel to France and driving around a lot), there's …" Meanwhile, I'm mostly content living off my €1k/month passive income, of which 25% is spent on mandatory social and health insurance; and the only thing I'm unsure about at this income level is visiting friends and family on the other end of a 2h flight where the airport isn't all that close to any of them.
- subscribed 9mo agoYeah, I'll tell my family we need to move to the mouldy 1 bedroom flat because a guy in the internet says so. That'll help with the mortgage bit; Also kids need to manage their expectations and instead of having active hobbies (that require some minimum hardware but lots of activities), they should try sculpting with clay instead. Especially that with the asthma they'll get from the black mould they'll be in no position to be very active anyway. I've seen clay on the field, so we'll save money here. We can also collect their art through the winter to bake them in the sun once they're ready (to save on the oven). School? Right, we need to move to the closest one, why let them have friends or aspirations. Now work, hmm, that's easy. Instead of going to the work I get paid a lot but commute cost over £5k a year, I'll take something that pays 1/6 of my original salary but we can save on the commute. Will he'll with arguing why we need to move to the smaller place and ditch their activities. Living costs a lot. And if I sound absurd so do you by suggesting your life choices are applicable to everyone or they're just convinced by adverts to spend.
- watwut 9mo agoHe is cool with sexual abuse of teenagers and with Epstein philosophyly, connection to crime, racism, sexism ... all if that. However, Greta Thunberg stands for evrrything he despises. She should be givimg massages and shut up.
- jmye 9mo agoMan, no /s at all. Peter Thiel is demonstrably evil even before the Epstein files come into play.
- ifwinterco 9mo agoThat "antichrist" lecture was an attempt at a reverse Streisand effect - there was a meme that Thiel was the antichrist, but now if you google "peter thiel antichrist" all you're going to see is that lecture. Pretty clever but to be clear he is an incredibly dodgy human being
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- YetAnotherNick 9mo agoYeah that's what I thought as well. Because even if he hates Greta Thunberg, there are much more extreme people in all the direction. So saying something so absurd seems bizarre. And for sure if anyone is to be tagged Antichrist, it would be war machine profiteer for most people. Tbh it's kind of a genius move when countless comments like GP tags the antichrist as just slightly malicious or weird comment by him.
- ifwinterco 9mo agoYep it's clever. He's many things but he's not stupid
- Betelbuddy 9mo agoNo. He is stupid... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ZjhdkOf0_E https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ZjhdkOf0_E https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s-BQhXdCs8Y https://www.youtube.com/shorts/s-BQhXdCs8Y https://www.tiktok.com/@eddiethemediatrainer/video/7521152372928810296 https://www.tiktok.com/@eddiethemediatrainer/video/752115237...
- awesomeusername 9mo agoBummer. I Don't want him to lose his Kiwi status. Can't wait for him to escape the apocalypse to NZ, that's gonna be hilarious. Not for him though...
- jacquesm 9mo agoWhy do you hate NZ that much?
- red-iron-pine 9mo agopeople too nice, country too majestic
- NedF 9mo ago[dead]
- SilverElfin 9mo agoSomehow there is a lot less discussion online about Thiel and Musk, both of whom are in the Epstein files. These are the most powerful people on the planet, steering elections at every level in America through their spending and connections. They need to be outed. Thiel appears to be a Russian asset since he meets with Russians at Epstein’s properties per the files. Musk is different. He simply begs Epstein to let Musk and his then wife Talulah Riley attend the “wildest party” on the island. Epstein even warns him that the “ratio” on the island may not be to his wife’s liking but Musk insists on coming to such a party. Their approaches to defend themselves are different too. Thiel is silent. Musk has made huge numbers of posts, retweets, and replies trying to pretend he’s not part of the Epstein class, pointing fingers at others, and claiming he’s never been to the island. And he hasn’t ever explained why he was asking Epstein about the wildest parties. Keep in mind that Elon was asking Epstein about these island parties years after Epstein was already a convicted child sex offender. He knew what was happening and wanted in.
- profsummergig 9mo agoPeople talk about "inbox zero". I want to learn "inbox Epstein". Somehow, this guy had time to have regular email conversations with about 1,000 of the most powerful people in the planet (the head of the Nobel Prize Committee was one). And he did this before LLMs.
- pjc50 9mo agoYou can answer a lot more email if you type badly. And don't care about not recording federal crimes in a durable medium.
- spacebanana7 9mo agoThere were some occasions he replied to questions as "not for email".
- Ancalagon 9mo agoAlmost like he had a couple secretaries
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- replwoacause 9mo agoOh no, this is definitely something. We need to root out the truth and see that all these people are held to account. You shouldn’t be minimizing the importance of this.
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- westernmostcoy 9mo agoI see Peter Thiel conversing repeatedly with someone who was convicted in Florida in 2008 for procuring a 17-year-old for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute. You’re writing a lot here to obfuscate that. If Mr. Thiel didn’t know, that is at minimum a reason to question his judgment.
- ulfw 9mo agoI love when people happily come out and defend people in contact with a known pedophile and sex trafficking ring
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- pixelatedindex 9mo ago> I love when leftists are so willing to have such a weak grasp on reality that they're able to convince themselves that the sitting president of the united states ate babies. Quite a statement to protect the president that claimed immigrants ate cats and dogs, and the base had no problems with it. There are problems with the left, but this is a hypocritical take. > Something about how the best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Well, have you tried to educate them instead of insulting them? Like Carlin said, there are a lot of dumb people out there. But belittling them doesn’t seem to be the solution if you actually want a functioning democracy. Education doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the top priority for the right as that’s too woke these days.
- givemeethekeys 9mo agoSince no charges have been laid for all the noise this topic has generated, I can only assume that this is a distraction from another more important operation. Maybe there's war coming, maybe that 1 Trillion dollar interest payment is a very big problem but you shouldn't panic, and we'll help you with that.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago> Since no charges have been laid for all the noise this topic has generated Considering that both the FBI and DOJ themselves seems to be compromised and more interested in a cover-up than finding the co-conspirators, who exactly would you expect to bring up charges here, if FBI and DOJ basically been put out of play?
- rcxdude 9mo agoA lot of the noise about this is specifically because the entities that are supposed to be investigating and bringing charges on this matter seem to be doing anything but that.
- pjc50 9mo agoYou're wondering why the people who report to Epstein associates aren't prosecuting them?
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- ZeroGravitas 9mo ago> Thiel is known for his libertarian political views and became a prominent supporter of Donald Trump Apparently AI does deadpan sarcasm now? More seriously, is there a technical write up on how they are generating these wiki pages from the emails?
- h33t-l4x0r 9mo agoOkaaay... Except Thiel is the one guy we know wasn't fucking any underage girls.
- kotaKat 9mo agoWe know that. Just go ask Jeff Thoma- ohhh right he got murdered.
- nhinck3 9mo agoThe emphasis is on the wrong word
- h33t-l4x0r 9mo agoSo you're saying he was drinking their blood? That makes sense.
- jacquesm 9mo agoYou lack imagination.
- dyauspitr 9mo agoYeah not girls… just the boys.
- jacquesm 9mo agoThiel and Musk are the two biggest jerks to come out of the tech scene bar none. Zuckerberg and Andreessen must be ecstatic, because those two make them look reasonable (which they're not).
- iancmceachern 9mo agoIt's so weird to me that these folks don't just retire with a bag of money to a nice beach house and enjoy life. They're always seeming to meddle. And in doing so they take away our, and their peace. It's like they're troubled deeply and they need us to be also? Why can't they just not do demonstrably evil, deeply wrong things?
- SolarToaster 9mo agoYeah, give me some sunshine and relative obscurity and we're golden.
- ndsipa_pomu 9mo agoIt takes a certain personality to continue hoarding wealth even when you know that it comes from exploiting others. The reason why they can't just not do demonstrably evil things is that they have relied on doing evil things to get to where they are. The kind of person that thinks "I've got more than enough money, I might as well use it to help others" doesn't get to be a billionaire.
- JKCalhoun 9mo agoExactly. The wife too, "If I were a billionaire…" I have to stop her right there. I stop myself there too. Neither one of us could, in any iteration of life, become billionaires. (There's a time-travel story for someone. Like the movie Primer but with one person who round-trips through time—placing stock bets and other investments in order to become wealthy. When they screw up an investment they get a do-over. Life also happens though: a relationship, marriage… This aspect though begins to play on a sense of guilt and he resists do-overs in the relationship. By the close of the story his pursuit of wealth wanes, evaporates completely. Contentment comes finally from his relationship, from accepting his missteps, from embracing the uncertainty of the future. The machine is scrapped, no more do-overs.)
- wmeredith 9mo agoYou may be interested in the excellent film "About Time". It has a similar, though not exactly the same, premise and conclusion.
- jadusm 9mo agoThiel briefly talked publicly about his relationship with Epstein on the Joe Rogan podcast. It is interesting to see the juxtaposition of the private conversations with the public presentation of the relationship https://youtu.be/klRb0_BAX9g https://youtu.be/klRb0_BAX9g @ 2:11:11
- gizzlon 9mo agoJust me, or are email like this quite suspicious, knowing what we do now: > Peter Thiel<Peter Thiel> > to jeffrey E. > Sep 12, 2014 6:02 AM > > 1 https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02588512?view=person https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02588512?view=person Code? Can't just be a mistake, there's too many of them: https://jmail.world/search?q=1&from=pid%3Apeter-thiel https://jmail.world/search?q=1&from=pid%3Apeter-thiel