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Reminds me of Facebook, there was nothing particularly interesting about a PHP app that stored photos and text in a flat user environment. Yet somehow the netw

Reminds me of Facebook, there was nothing particularly interesting about a PHP app that stored photos and text in a flat user environment. Yet somehow the network effects worked out well and the website was the preeminent social network for almost a decade.

rockwotj 8mo ago
Technology does not determine the success of a company. I’ve seen amazing tech fail, and things strapped together with ducktape and bubblegum be a wild success.
CuriouslyC 8mo ago
Except in this case there's no network effect for autonomous agents. In fact, Peter is going to be working mostly on an OpenAI locked down, ecosystem tied agent, which means it's going to be worse than OpenClaw, but with a nicer out of the box experience.
- fragmede 8mo ago
  If you're on OpenAI, and I'm on Anthropic, can we interoperate? What level are we even trying to interoperate on? The network effect is that, hey, my stuff is working here, your stuff is working over there. So do we move to your set of tools, or my set of tools, or do we mismash between them, as our relationship and power dynamics choose for us.
  - CuriouslyC 8mo ago
    I'd describe that as platform lock-in rather than the network effect.
bdangubic 8mo ago
facebook is still preeminent social network today
jatari 8mo ago
The instant someone makes a better version of openclaw -literally- everyone is going to jump ship. There is no lock in at all.
Gigachad 8mo ago
Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares. See how quickly people drop AI products for the next one that does the same thing but slightly better. To switch from ChatGPT to Gemini I don't have to convince all of my friends and family to do the same.
- Sateeshm 8mo ago
  > Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares. Ecommerce is close second
- wiseowise 8mo ago
  > See how quickly people drop AI products for the next one that does the same thing but slightly better. > To switch from ChatGPT to Gemini I don't have to convince all of my friends and family to do the same. Except Gemini is a complete joke that can’t even complete request on iOS unless you keep scree unlocked or keep the app in the foreground. So I’m not sure how it proves your point.
  - Gigachad 8mo ago
    Even if this was true, it would simply be a software bug that could be resolved. Not an example of network effects. My use of an AI product is not impacted by what my friends and family use.

rockwotj 8mo ago

Technology does not determine the success of a company. I’ve seen amazing tech fail, and things strapped together with ducktape and bubblegum be a wild success.

CuriouslyC 8mo ago

Except in this case there's no network effect for autonomous agents. In fact, Peter is going to be working mostly on an OpenAI locked down, ecosystem tied agent, which means it's going to be worse than OpenClaw, but with a nicer out of the box experience.

fragmede 8mo ago
If you're on OpenAI, and I'm on Anthropic, can we interoperate? What level are we even trying to interoperate on? The network effect is that, hey, my stuff is working here, your stuff is working over there. So do we move to your set of tools, or my set of tools, or do we mismash between them, as our relationship and power dynamics choose for us.
- CuriouslyC 8mo ago
  I'd describe that as platform lock-in rather than the network effect.

bdangubic 8mo ago

facebook is still preeminent social network today

jatari 8mo ago

The instant someone makes a better version of openclaw -literally- everyone is going to jump ship. There is no lock in at all.

Gigachad 8mo ago

Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares. See how quickly people drop AI products for the next one that does the same thing but slightly better. To switch from ChatGPT to Gemini I don't have to convince all of my friends and family to do the same.

Sateeshm 8mo ago
> Social media is the king of network effects. Almost nothing else compares. Ecommerce is close second
wiseowise 8mo ago
> See how quickly people drop AI products for the next one that does the same thing but slightly better. > To switch from ChatGPT to Gemini I don't have to convince all of my friends and family to do the same. Except Gemini is a complete joke that can’t even complete request on iOS unless you keep scree unlocked or keep the app in the foreground. So I’m not sure how it proves your point.
- Gigachad 8mo ago
  Even if this was true, it would simply be a software bug that could be resolved. Not an example of network effects. My use of an AI product is not impacted by what my friends and family use.