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Amazing how bad Anthropic can miss the boat on this

by iSloth 8mo ago

creatonez 8mo ago
Miss the boat on what? Idiotic agents with no sandboxing, with the door fully open for prompt injection purgatory? There's nothing interesting about this technology other than how dumb it is and how badly it will spam the internet (see https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on... for how bad agent slop has gotten).
glerk 8mo ago
1-2 engineers at Anthropic can implement their own OpenClaw in a matter of days (and give it a less stupid name while they're at it). This is just a marketing move by OpenAI.
- hu3 8mo ago
  Even the thousands of integrations? The strenght of openclaw is the massive community adherence. It can connect to a ton of things. It's like the https://zapier.com https://zapier.com meets LLMs.
  - glerk 8mo ago
    I'm sure a lot of API plumbing can be copied/adapted wholesale from the (open-source) openclaw repo. LLMs are surprisingly good at this kind of stuff. And yeah it would require some testing, but I doubt what openclaw has now is itself in a very stable state (from my very limited testing)
  - dolia 8mo ago
    You think he implemented those thousands of integrations himself? Or maybe some particular tool was used that can be used again for implementing such things? Particular tool that so many of us use as well?
    - hu3 8mo ago
      It was obviously largely by the community. Just take a look at PRs. Question is, will the community continue with this level of engagement on the project now that it has OpenAI stamp on it? I highly doubt. A fork? Maybe.
mpalmer 8mo ago
Maybe they don't want the idiots' money.
shadab_nazar 8mo ago
Honestly the trademark thing was fine on its own — you protect your brand. But Anthropic was playing a legal game while OpenAI was playing a relationship game. One got a name change, the other got the most visible open-source agent project. If you're going to push someone away, maybe think about where they land.

Amazing how bad Anthropic can miss the boat on this

by iSloth 8mo ago

Amazing how bad Anthropic can miss the boat on this

Miss the boat on what? Idiotic agents with no sandboxing, with the door fully open for prompt injection purgatory? There's nothing interesting about this technology other than how dumb it is and how badly it will spam the internet (see https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on... for how bad agent slop has gotten).

glerk 8mo ago

1-2 engineers at Anthropic can implement their own OpenClaw in a matter of days (and give it a less stupid name while they're at it). This is just a marketing move by OpenAI.

hu3 8mo ago
Even the thousands of integrations? The strenght of openclaw is the massive community adherence. It can connect to a ton of things. It's like the https://zapier.com https://zapier.com meets LLMs.
- glerk 8mo ago
  I'm sure a lot of API plumbing can be copied/adapted wholesale from the (open-source) openclaw repo. LLMs are surprisingly good at this kind of stuff. And yeah it would require some testing, but I doubt what openclaw has now is itself in a very stable state (from my very limited testing)
- dolia 8mo ago
  You think he implemented those thousands of integrations himself? Or maybe some particular tool was used that can be used again for implementing such things? Particular tool that so many of us use as well?
  - hu3 8mo ago
    It was obviously largely by the community. Just take a look at PRs. Question is, will the community continue with this level of engagement on the project now that it has OpenAI stamp on it? I highly doubt. A fork? Maybe.

mpalmer 8mo ago

Maybe they don't want the idiots' money.

shadab_nazar 8mo ago

Honestly the trademark thing was fine on its own — you protect your brand. But Anthropic was playing a legal game while OpenAI was playing a relationship game. One got a name change, the other got the most visible open-source agent project. If you're going to push someone away, maybe think about where they land.