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you are wrong. Windows 3.11 era used CPUs with like 33mhz cpu, and yet we had TONS of graphical applications. Including web browsers, Photoshop, CAD, Excel and

you are wrong. Windows 3.11 era used CPUs with like 33mhz cpu, and yet we had TONS of graphical applications. Including web browsers, Photoshop, CAD, Excel and instant messangers Only thing that killed web for old computers is JAVASCRIPT.

cluckindan 8mo ago
Not JavaScript. Facebook.
- j16sdiz 8mo ago
  Netscape 2 support javascript on 16-bit Windows 3.1
vidarh 8mo ago
I don't see how this contradicts any of what they said, unless they've edited their comment. You're right we had graphical apps, but we did also have very little video. CuSeeMe existed - video conferencing would've still been a thing, but with limited resolution due to bandwidth constraints. Video in general was an awful low res mess and would have remained so if most people were limited to ISDN speeds. While there were still images on the web, the amount of graphical flourishes were still heavily bandwidth limited. The bandwidth limit they proposed would be a big deal even if CPU speeds continued to increase (it could only mitigate so much with better compression).
- iberator 8mo ago
  i remember watching adult videos on windows 3.11 with 486dx 100mhz. CD-ROM VIDEO thing. I guess it was just just mpeg2 format
rbanffy 8mo ago
> Only thing that killed web for old computers is JAVASCRIPT. JavaScript is innocent. The people writing humongous apps with it are the ones to blame. And memory footprint. A 16 MB machine wouldn’t be able to hold the icons an average web app uses today.
- bitwize 8mo ago
  Netscape was talking about making the Web an app platform to replace Microsoft Windows even way back then. The world we're living in today is exactly what they envisioned.
  - rbanffy 8mo ago
    Electron wouldn’t be possible back then.
    - bitwize 8mo ago
      Electron was effectively invented by Microsoft in 1999: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application Which is funny, because HTML, Java, and JavaScript were being talked about as an app platform a few years before then, precisely to prevent Microsoft from drinking everybody's milkshake on the desktop.

cluckindan 8mo ago

Not JavaScript. Facebook.

j16sdiz 8mo ago
Netscape 2 support javascript on 16-bit Windows 3.1

vidarh 8mo ago

I don't see how this contradicts any of what they said, unless they've edited their comment. You're right we had graphical apps, but we did also have very little video. CuSeeMe existed - video conferencing would've still been a thing, but with limited resolution due to bandwidth constraints. Video in general was an awful low res mess and would have remained so if most people were limited to ISDN speeds. While there were still images on the web, the amount of graphical flourishes were still heavily bandwidth limited. The bandwidth limit they proposed would be a big deal even if CPU speeds continued to increase (it could only mitigate so much with better compression).

iberator 8mo ago
i remember watching adult videos on windows 3.11 with 486dx 100mhz. CD-ROM VIDEO thing. I guess it was just just mpeg2 format

rbanffy 8mo ago

> Only thing that killed web for old computers is JAVASCRIPT. JavaScript is innocent. The people writing humongous apps with it are the ones to blame. And memory footprint. A 16 MB machine wouldn’t be able to hold the icons an average web app uses today.

bitwize 8mo ago
Netscape was talking about making the Web an app platform to replace Microsoft Windows even way back then. The world we're living in today is exactly what they envisioned.
- rbanffy 8mo ago
  Electron wouldn’t be possible back then.
  - bitwize 8mo ago
    Electron was effectively invented by Microsoft in 1999: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application Which is funny, because HTML, Java, and JavaScript were being talked about as an app platform a few years before then, precisely to prevent Microsoft from drinking everybody's milkshake on the desktop.