3 ms·

Congratulations. By needling and carving at semantics, you win the argument! Two more Internet points for you! It's almost like HN isn't a court and the OP was

• otterley 8mo ago
  To say that something is a belief or should be and to say that something is a fact are two different things. When you say the latter, you are putting yourself at a significantly greater risk of being incorrect. You don’t have to be a lawyer to know this. And I’d expect someone with your background to know this better than most! HN is a forum of written communications. Clarity and accuracy are essential skills for participating effectively in such places, and are the responsibility of the author.
  • alt227 8mo ago
    This is an internet forum, not a court of law.
    • otterley 8mo ago
      And therefore what, exactly? When you distill the two down to their essence, they’re similar in that they’re groups of people making written arguments against each other. (And, frequently, complaining about mistreatment.) Are you trying to argue that people shouldn’t be taken at their word? Or that we shouldn’t challenge people who make unqualified legal assertions? I’m not sure what your point is.
      • wredcoll 8mo ago
        People here are making arguments about what should be. Either as interpretations or created laws. We all know that the actual interpretation is up to 5 republicans on the supreme court and whatever they feel on a given day will increase their side's power/ideology. No one is going to be making arguments about that because there's no point, you can't logic someone out of a position that they didn't use logic to get to in the first place. So again, when someone on a forum says "this is wrong and something should be done about it" replying that it might technically be legal at this moment in time is incredibly useless. It's completely missing the point.
        • otterley 8mo ago
          > when someone on a forum says "this is wrong and something should be done about it" If that had been what was said, we wouldn’t even be here.
          • wredcoll 8mo ago
            Perhaps we can work on what is called "media literacy" where we understand text based on its context and authorship and other such clues.
            • otterley 8mo ago
              https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47025768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47025768 You have the roles and responsibilities exactly backwards.
              • wredcoll 8mo ago
                Well, my comments got more upvotes than yours did, and this is a democracy, so I guess I win?
                • otterley 8mo ago
                  You can't see others' upvotes (at least, for net positive scores), so there's no way to know.
• oldcigarette 8mo ago
  it is times like these i am reminded of https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
  • Loughla 8mo ago
    That was actually my first thought. The focus on this part of the thread has left the actual meat of the article entirely and is focused instead on a post trying to weedle meaning where there is none.
    • otterley 8mo ago
      You caught me, boys! I’d better go tell my boss I failed because these kids are too smart to be fooled.