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> I know it seems hard, but just stop using Google, Amazon, Meta products It's not just hard for some though, literally their livelihood depends on it. Want to

> I know it seems hard, but just stop using Google, Amazon, Meta products It's not just hard for some though, literally their livelihood depends on it. Want to run a restaurant today? You basically must have Facebook, Instagram and Google Maps entry for enough people to discover you, probably more than half of the people we got to our restaurant who we ask, cite Google Maps as the reason they found the place, and without half our income, the restaurant wouldn't have survived.

prmoustache 9mo ago
It really depends where the restaurant is located.
- lazide 9mo ago
  Name a place it isn’t true.
  - random2021 9mo ago
    Perhaps DPRK. I mean deGoogle/meta etc is almost impossible
  - rolph 9mo ago
    Alaska
  - epolanski 9mo ago
    I'm Italian, there's plenty of stellar places with no online presence and endless customers.
  - prmoustache 9mo ago
    Any city with either an actual city center, an historic center or touristic area. Any restaurant that is in a major business area. Any neighborhood were local zoning is not a thing and local restaurant can be open. We have a lot of tapas or marisquerías places in Spain that are almost only visited by people from the same neighborhood. I like fish and seafood but don't want the smell of it in my kitchen the next day, whenever I want to eat fish I go to some place selling that and I don't need google maps to find one in my neighborhood. Also world of mouth is still a thing in many places in this world. Reading HN feels sometimes like a weird parallel universe were people would never open their front door nor meet and to people.
    - embedding-shape 9mo ago
      > We have a lot of tapas or marisquerías places in Spain that are almost only visited by people from the same neighborhood Yes, this is exactly the thing. Our restaurant is in Spain, and what you're saying is very true, which is why Google Maps, Instagram and Facebook tends to be important, as again, half (~guess) the people who arrive found it via Google Maps or Instagram, the rest are people who live nearby.

prmoustache 9mo ago

It really depends where the restaurant is located.

lazide 9mo ago
Name a place it isn’t true.
- random2021 9mo ago
  Perhaps DPRK. I mean deGoogle/meta etc is almost impossible
- rolph 9mo ago
  Alaska
- epolanski 9mo ago
  I'm Italian, there's plenty of stellar places with no online presence and endless customers.
- prmoustache 9mo ago
  Any city with either an actual city center, an historic center or touristic area. Any restaurant that is in a major business area. Any neighborhood were local zoning is not a thing and local restaurant can be open. We have a lot of tapas or marisquerías places in Spain that are almost only visited by people from the same neighborhood. I like fish and seafood but don't want the smell of it in my kitchen the next day, whenever I want to eat fish I go to some place selling that and I don't need google maps to find one in my neighborhood. Also world of mouth is still a thing in many places in this world. Reading HN feels sometimes like a weird parallel universe were people would never open their front door nor meet and to people.
  - embedding-shape 9mo ago
    > We have a lot of tapas or marisquerías places in Spain that are almost only visited by people from the same neighborhood Yes, this is exactly the thing. Our restaurant is in Spain, and what you're saying is very true, which is why Google Maps, Instagram and Facebook tends to be important, as again, half (~guess) the people who arrive found it via Google Maps or Instagram, the rest are people who live nearby.