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I don’t understand why Gemini is not better integrated into Google Docs. I can’t transfer results into docs, it can’t manipulate existing docs. I can’t even r
by baxtr 8mo ago
I don’t understand why Gemini is not better integrated into Google Docs.
I can’t transfer results into docs, it can’t manipulate existing docs.
I can’t even rule out that I’m doing something wrong somehow.
But it’s just frustrating to see that the teams inside of Google don’t work well together.
- estearum 8mo agoI mean Gemini is basically brand new... They're clearly working towards deeper integration.
- billyboy123 8mo agoThe Gemini branding is over a year old, and google has been working on this for ages. They need to vibe code faster!
- falcor84 8mo agoBrand New? It's over two years old now. For a company that brags about its cloud infrastructure and developer tooling, I find it incredibly ironic that Gemini has worse integration with Google docs than ChatGPT and Claude.
- estearum 8mo agoYes, for a company the size of Google, a two year old product is effectively brand new. It is not ironic whatsoever that much smaller startups in much more precarious positions relative to the incumbent move very quickly to integrate with the incumbent.
- baxtr 8mo agoI mean I get your point. But still, shouldn’t we hold the big companies accountable? I don’t want to lower my expectations just because I need to understand that the company in charge is huge.
- estearum 8mo agoSure, we should demand good stuff from companies. That's different than your original claim of not being able to understand why it's this way (and another commenter calling it ironic). Totally expected IMO. It's very hard to do cross-cutting things in big companies. It just is!
- devinplatt 8mo agoIt's so interesting to read these comments because this this is literally my job (to help Workspace teams integrate Gemini faster) Some thoughts: - Hardware constraints are real, even at Google. - Features are often released for enterprise users first, before being released for the general public. - I only started my current role last year. - 2 years ago is forever ago in AI and things are changing a lot. For example, with older model generations people used to do a lot more fine-tuning (slow) vs. prompt engineering (fast). The implication is that things that are easier to do today might have been hard to do not that long ago. The rapid changes also create churn for internal platforms and dev tooling. - Google is less yolo and cares about safety, prompt injection, etc. so some time goes into that - Typical big company bureaucracy also applies, but TBH there's a lot of pressure to deliver Gemini related stuff so I think there's less of that
- baxtr 8mo agoHow cool, that you’re reading these comments! I really hope you succeed. Google has great products. I’d love to see them working better together.
- baxtr 8mo agoThere are forces making a company like Google slow - as you’ve outlined. There are forces that can make a company like Google move faster - like pressure from customers. As you might have noticed people within Google have read this thread. I’m expressing my discontent with their product experience by saying "I don’t understand". I could have also used "it’s insane" or any similar phrase.
- htrp 8mo agoGoogle Wave was launched, marketed, and killed in 2 years
- estearum 8mo agoIs this supposed to be evidence that Gemini is mature?
- barbazoo 8mo agoGemini isn’t even an expert in Google’s own products. Ask about a feature from within one of their own products and it’s as dumb as any other LLM. Why wouldn’t you ground it in knowledge and your product?
- abacadaba 8mo agofirst they would need to create docs that aren't useless and completely disorganized to train on. the best way to figure out how to actually use more than the most basic examples of most the gcp sdks is by looking at the source code. either a hello world example or an autogenerated class list with no explanations /rant