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'It's over for us': release of AI video generator Seedance 2.0 spooks Hollywood

23 points by mellosouls 8mo ago

kertoip_1 8mo ago
> It's over for us To be more specific: "us" in this sentence means the creators of dumb, shallow, and derivative movies. The cognitive error here is that people see generated video and are overwhelmed by how it looks good, but they don't know how much it differs from an original vision. Vision that human prompting it had in mind while creating it. And I'm sure this differs a lot. Whoever tried to generate video using generative models knows that what you get is basically random. But movies never had been about showing random things. There is no way the movie industry collapses. But it will certainly transform more into computer work.
- metalman 8mo ago
  ya, but no it is over, "it" bieng a dominant place in in popular media reserved for hollywood, done, non viable model now, competition is fierce for views, and no one is waiting to be discovered. attention spans are too short, and billions are playing bit parts in games and creating videos.AI is blurring everything, and closeing off entry level spots to test new talent, meat aint cheap or fast enough, no matter how hard you push. The comming space hotels, mars and moon missions will take the place of movie and tv,real live performance will maintain it's draw, AI slop for the dull.
treetalker 8mo ago
"Anakin Datacenters" meme video, created with Seedance 2.0: https://xcancel.com/charliebcurran/status/2022463429823598999 https://xcancel.com/charliebcurran/status/202246342982359899...
- tim333 8mo ago
  They are getting good. I liked the Epstien one linked from the article https://x.com/RuairiRobinson/status/2021412241787199947 https://x.com/RuairiRobinson/status/2021412241787199947 But I'm not sure the AI stuff holds together for much more than 15 seconds at the moment.
newsicanuse 8mo ago
Typical AI bro post
gedy 8mo ago
When I was doing my graduate work about 20 years ago, I focused on algorithmic art and visualizations (from code perspective), and even then I was making stuff that was at par with the digital media artists in the program (meaning people couldn't tell or realize I was making this all with scripts). I was then and still now strongly of the opinion that copying a trend or leaning on "style" is not really "art". You have to say something more than that, or be so unique in your style that you are the first to go down a path. Not defending job losses by any means, more just that this has been going on a long time and folks need to be careful. Derivative style movies and animation are probably going to be largely automated (by the movie industry)

23 points by mellosouls 8mo ago

> It's over for us To be more specific: "us" in this sentence means the creators of dumb, shallow, and derivative movies. The cognitive error here is that people see generated video and are overwhelmed by how it looks good, but they don't know how much it differs from an original vision. Vision that human prompting it had in mind while creating it. And I'm sure this differs a lot. Whoever tried to generate video using generative models knows that what you get is basically random. But movies never had been about showing random things. There is no way the movie industry collapses. But it will certainly transform more into computer work.

metalman 8mo ago
ya, but no it is over, "it" bieng a dominant place in in popular media reserved for hollywood, done, non viable model now, competition is fierce for views, and no one is waiting to be discovered. attention spans are too short, and billions are playing bit parts in games and creating videos.AI is blurring everything, and closeing off entry level spots to test new talent, meat aint cheap or fast enough, no matter how hard you push. The comming space hotels, mars and moon missions will take the place of movie and tv,real live performance will maintain it's draw, AI slop for the dull.

treetalker 8mo ago

"Anakin Datacenters" meme video, created with Seedance 2.0: https://xcancel.com/charliebcurran/status/2022463429823598999 https://xcancel.com/charliebcurran/status/202246342982359899...

tim333 8mo ago
They are getting good. I liked the Epstien one linked from the article https://x.com/RuairiRobinson/status/2021412241787199947 https://x.com/RuairiRobinson/status/2021412241787199947 But I'm not sure the AI stuff holds together for much more than 15 seconds at the moment.

newsicanuse 8mo ago

Typical AI bro post

gedy 8mo ago

When I was doing my graduate work about 20 years ago, I focused on algorithmic art and visualizations (from code perspective), and even then I was making stuff that was at par with the digital media artists in the program (meaning people couldn't tell or realize I was making this all with scripts). I was then and still now strongly of the opinion that copying a trend or leaning on "style" is not really "art". You have to say something more than that, or be so unique in your style that you are the first to go down a path. Not defending job losses by any means, more just that this has been going on a long time and folks need to be careful. Derivative style movies and animation are probably going to be largely automated (by the movie industry)