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It happens in pockets of the US, too: Jerry Falwell's conservative Liberty University did a very similar thing. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/campus-over
by jcromartie 14y ago
It happens in pockets of the US, too: Jerry Falwell's conservative Liberty University did a very similar thing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/campus-overload/post/falwells-liberty-university-blocks-newspaper-web-site/2011/04/13/AFLYNJXD_blog.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/campus-overload/post/fal...
EDIT: mircocosm was a poor word choice
- secalex 14y agoLiberty University is in no way a "microcosm of the US". If anything, it is a Christian version of the Islamic Republic, hidden in Virginia.
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- tellme 14y agoif my opinion of the states was formed by the loudest voices in this year's elections, I'd think the US was a Christian version of the Islamic Republic.
- jcromartie 14y agoYou're right. I chose a poor word there. I meant that they are a pocket of this kind of ideology in the US (retaliatory censorship).
- danielweber 14y agoLiberty is a private university, and its students choose to attend knowing full-well its policies. (And it blocks a lot more than WaPo.) FIRE and the Virginia ACLU both agree with Liberty's right to do so: http://thefire.org/article/10717.html http://thefire.org/article/10717.html You are, of course, free to criticize LU for its policies.
- est 14y agoChina is a private country, the whole fucking nation owns debt to the greate Communist Party.
- hollerith 14y agoIs that your sincere opinion or are you being sarcastic?
- jcromartie 14y agoThe point is that they used their control over the information available to their "population" to retaliate against and block journalism that revealed information unfavorable to their internal narrative. I'd say that's the exact same tactic.
- greyboy 14y agoThen they could go down the road to the local coffee shop/home/mobile network and browse the internet, unblocked. No? They have options. I'm not sure the Chinese population have (such an easy) option to get around it.
- evoxed 14y agoHaving several friends and relatives who are either attending or alumni... no, AFAIK it's pretty isolated for students without a car. Not that you can't get away, just that for most people leaving the campus isn't a daily activity. Also, I would be surprised if many of the nearby businesses had public wifi, unless there's a Starbucks I've missed.
- spatten 14y agoYou don't even need to move a centimeter. All you need is an iPhone with 3G. Or is that not allowed for students of the university? Sorry, I didn't read the full article.
- Groxx 14y agoWell, similarly, every Chinese person annoyed at the censorship just needs a short-wave radio to pick up global broadcasts. (unless they're jamming that frequency somehow) That doesn't make it any less bad. Personally, I have yet to own a phone with internet access.
- d503 14y agoHaving access to Google Maps... there's a Starbucks (and Panera) basically next door. Granted the area isn't all that walkable and "next door" is still kind of far without a car.
- scarmig 14y agoHmmm. I'm curious: if it turned out that private ISPs in China were blocking the NYTimes of their own volition, would that make it okay?
- jamesaguilar 14y agoThere are degrees of OK. It would be much more OK than if the government is doing it. Why? Chances are if private parties are doing it, there is some third-party that isn't, if you're willing to pay.
- spindritf 14y ago> Jerry Falwell's conservative Liberty University did a very similar thing That's like a coffee shop blocking some domain on their WiFi -- not even remotely similar to state censorship.
- jcromartie 14y agoMaybe if the coffee shop blocked a domain that revealed some facts about them that they didn't like.
- mikeash 14y agoAnd anybody who feels like bringing a smartphone onto campus can get around it.