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Yeah, he definitely has gone off the rails lately with all the talk about the antichrist being a literal existing being with emissaries on earth. I haven't been

by stavros 9mo ago

Yeah, he definitely has gone off the rails lately with all the talk about the antichrist being a literal existing being with emissaries on earth. I haven't been watching his stuff but the little I've seen was unhinged.

Hikikomori 9mo ago
Lately? "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." 2009 He is just executing on this, and some of religious technocratic nonsense beliefs just leaked a bit.
- Hikikomori 9mo ago
  And should not forget that Garry Tan the ycombinatior CEO attends the same church where Thiel held his Greta antichrist talk.
  - JPKab 9mo ago
    Garry is a good person and smearing people over their church is a disgusting thing to do. I am now going to sit here and listen to this talk because I guarantee it's not saying what you think it's saying. And I don't want to listen to it. It's not a topic that interests me. But I guarantee you are completely distorting what was stated in that topic for maximum effect, entirely motivated by left-wing politics.
    - nickthegreek 9mo ago
      I imagine you are not done listening to them yet as the total over 8 hrs. But my research is showing that OPs are largely correct. Theil gave several talks to his church where he did in fact say these things. In your post you state you are ‘not sure’, but also that that the poster is ‘wrong’. > My thesis is that in the 17th, 18th century, the antichrist would have been a Dr Strangelove, a scientist who did all this sort of evil crazy science. In the 21st century, the antichrist is a luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer. Sure, he eventually goes on to say stuff like.. > One of the ways these things always get reported is, I denounce Greta as an antichrist. And I want to be very clear: Greta is, I mean she’s maybe sort of a type or a shadow of an antichrist of a sort that would be tempting. But I don’t want to flatter her too much. So with Greta, you shouldn’t take her as the antichrist for sure. With AOC, you can choose whether or not you want to believe this disclaimer that I just gave But I don’t think this is the win that you might think it is. The dude is a loon.
    - Hikikomori 9mo ago
      Going by your comment history any criticism of Thiel and the administration is just left wing politics, but hard to hear you over the sound of drowning yourself with kool-aid. Weird that you seem to support this administration that Thiel is very much associated with but find it offensive when there's a very clear association between Thiel and Garry. He's just going to this specific church to pray or whatever? Paying no mind to the anti-christ talk happening next door. I do hope this is the last breaths of religion in the western world, it needs to die.
      - JPKab 9mo ago
        I've been on HN for well over 10 years. I literally volunteered for Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns, and my comments in that time period clearly show my politics. I taught free web scraping workshops at the Center for American Progress to journalists back then. None of my policy preferences have changed. What's changed is the frothing at the mouth radicalism and moralizing of the team I used to support. I'm not religious, and hate religious radicals, but ideologues act identically, just with secular idols. I didn't see that until I watched what the leftist ideologies did to the quality of life in two places I used to live in: SF and Boulder. I'm a 2012 Democrat, which makes me a fascist to a 2026 Democrat.
        mvdtnz 9mo ago
        You ARE a religious radical.
        JPKab 9mo ago
        You have made a false claim. What is your evidence that I am religious, let alone a religious radical? I mean, if we're going to make accusations based on perceived political tribal allegiances, I can say to you with equal certainty that you're a neo-Marxist. Of course I don't know that. And you don't know anything about me.
    - mvdtnz 9mo ago
      You are wrong. Thiel's talks are as insane as we're saying. Also, it's not "disgusting" to tar people for belonging to a known toxic community of lunatics. It's completely rational. Cut the fake outrage. Idiotic religious beliefs don't have the same sacred value to most of us as they do to you.
jacquesm 9mo ago
Thiel lost the plot long ago, just like his PayPal buddy did. The money went to their heads. 300 years into the future some historian will publish a book: "The downfall of the USA traced back to the PayPal Mafia".
- metalman 9mo ago
  for which Gretta is the litteral, antidote, as she has NO money, or such vanishingly small personal funds as to be of no account, yet hiches rides on sailboats to show up and berate parliments in there well worn lairs, her speach to the british parliment bieng a clear sign that she wont back down , and much worse, has such impecable manners that she mistook there talking and joking to be a technical mallfunction with her microphone. And now after her capture by the ZGF (zionist genocide force), and stare down with there chief torturer/jailer, she has vanished from all major media. So that Gretta and that Peter, are in fact polar oposites in almost every sense.
  - dgxyz 9mo ago
    This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around. Truths are always somewhere in the middle.
    - foldr 9mo ago
      I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.
      - dgxyz 9mo ago
        Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle. The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.

by stavros 9mo ago

Hikikomori 9mo ago

Lately? "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." 2009 He is just executing on this, and some of religious technocratic nonsense beliefs just leaked a bit.

Hikikomori 9mo ago
And should not forget that Garry Tan the ycombinatior CEO attends the same church where Thiel held his Greta antichrist talk.
- JPKab 9mo ago
  Garry is a good person and smearing people over their church is a disgusting thing to do. I am now going to sit here and listen to this talk because I guarantee it's not saying what you think it's saying. And I don't want to listen to it. It's not a topic that interests me. But I guarantee you are completely distorting what was stated in that topic for maximum effect, entirely motivated by left-wing politics.
  - nickthegreek 9mo ago
    I imagine you are not done listening to them yet as the total over 8 hrs. But my research is showing that OPs are largely correct. Theil gave several talks to his church where he did in fact say these things. In your post you state you are ‘not sure’, but also that that the poster is ‘wrong’. > My thesis is that in the 17th, 18th century, the antichrist would have been a Dr Strangelove, a scientist who did all this sort of evil crazy science. In the 21st century, the antichrist is a luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer. Sure, he eventually goes on to say stuff like.. > One of the ways these things always get reported is, I denounce Greta as an antichrist. And I want to be very clear: Greta is, I mean she’s maybe sort of a type or a shadow of an antichrist of a sort that would be tempting. But I don’t want to flatter her too much. So with Greta, you shouldn’t take her as the antichrist for sure. With AOC, you can choose whether or not you want to believe this disclaimer that I just gave But I don’t think this is the win that you might think it is. The dude is a loon.
  - Hikikomori 9mo ago
    Going by your comment history any criticism of Thiel and the administration is just left wing politics, but hard to hear you over the sound of drowning yourself with kool-aid. Weird that you seem to support this administration that Thiel is very much associated with but find it offensive when there's a very clear association between Thiel and Garry. He's just going to this specific church to pray or whatever? Paying no mind to the anti-christ talk happening next door. I do hope this is the last breaths of religion in the western world, it needs to die.
    - JPKab 9mo ago
      I've been on HN for well over 10 years. I literally volunteered for Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns, and my comments in that time period clearly show my politics. I taught free web scraping workshops at the Center for American Progress to journalists back then. None of my policy preferences have changed. What's changed is the frothing at the mouth radicalism and moralizing of the team I used to support. I'm not religious, and hate religious radicals, but ideologues act identically, just with secular idols. I didn't see that until I watched what the leftist ideologies did to the quality of life in two places I used to live in: SF and Boulder. I'm a 2012 Democrat, which makes me a fascist to a 2026 Democrat.
      - mvdtnz 9mo ago
        You ARE a religious radical.
        JPKab 9mo ago
        You have made a false claim. What is your evidence that I am religious, let alone a religious radical? I mean, if we're going to make accusations based on perceived political tribal allegiances, I can say to you with equal certainty that you're a neo-Marxist. Of course I don't know that. And you don't know anything about me.
  - mvdtnz 9mo ago
    You are wrong. Thiel's talks are as insane as we're saying. Also, it's not "disgusting" to tar people for belonging to a known toxic community of lunatics. It's completely rational. Cut the fake outrage. Idiotic religious beliefs don't have the same sacred value to most of us as they do to you.

jacquesm 9mo ago

Thiel lost the plot long ago, just like his PayPal buddy did. The money went to their heads. 300 years into the future some historian will publish a book: "The downfall of the USA traced back to the PayPal Mafia".

metalman 9mo ago
for which Gretta is the litteral, antidote, as she has NO money, or such vanishingly small personal funds as to be of no account, yet hiches rides on sailboats to show up and berate parliments in there well worn lairs, her speach to the british parliment bieng a clear sign that she wont back down , and much worse, has such impecable manners that she mistook there talking and joking to be a technical mallfunction with her microphone. And now after her capture by the ZGF (zionist genocide force), and stare down with there chief torturer/jailer, she has vanished from all major media. So that Gretta and that Peter, are in fact polar oposites in almost every sense.
- dgxyz 9mo ago
  This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around. Truths are always somewhere in the middle.
  - foldr 9mo ago
    I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.
    - dgxyz 9mo ago
      Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle. The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.