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Researcher skeptical of 'Havana syndrome' tested secret weapon on himself

27 points by bookofjoe 9mo ago

bookofjoe 9mo ago
https://wapo.st/4kwZhEg https://wapo.st/4kwZhEg
- lkbm 9mo ago
  That's only showing me the first paragraph. Archive.is shows the full article: https://archive.is/nzo7W https://archive.is/nzo7W
stefantalpalaru 9mo ago
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belter 9mo ago
Sounds like the Descombulator... "...In 2024, a Norwegian researcher skeptical that pulsed-energy weapons could do damage to human brains built a device and tested it on himself. It didn’t go well... ...Working in strict secrecy, a government scientist in Norway built a machine capable of emitting powerful pulses of microwave energy and, in an effort to prove such devices are harmless to humans, in 2024 tested it on himself. He suffered neurological symptoms similar to those of “Havana syndrome,” the unexplained malady that has struck hundreds of U.S. spies and diplomats around the world..."
walletdrainer 9mo ago
Do we know that this isn’t placebo?
- tim333 9mo ago
  Some of the symptoms of people with Havana syndrome seem very un placebo like. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome#Signs_and_symptoms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome#Signs_and_symp...
tim333 9mo ago
Another piece of evidence it was microwaves. It seems to have been GRU Unit 29155. Quite why the Russians feel the need to go around attacking everyone in weird underhand ways I don't know. I guess some grudge against US intelligence?
gus_massa 9mo ago
IIUC the guy build a device that is harmful, but there is no proof that a similar device was used in any of the "Habana syndrome" cases in the wild.
amai 9mo ago
See also "Unraveling Havana Syndrome: New evidence links the GRU's assassination Unit 29155 to mysterious attacks on U.S. officials and their families" and "Albert Averyanov": https://theins.ru/en/politics/270425 https://theins.ru/en/politics/270425
amai 9mo ago
Most probably the US has a similar weapon as the Russians and doesn't want to draw attention to it. See also "discombobulator" https://people.com/donald-trump-says-secret-discombobulator-was-used-during-nicolas-maduro-capture-11892111 https://people.com/donald-trump-says-secret-discombobulator-... a secret weapon named after a World of Warcraft gadget: https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Discombobulator_Ray https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Discombobulator_Ray

27 points by bookofjoe 9mo ago

bookofjoe 9mo ago

https://wapo.st/4kwZhEg https://wapo.st/4kwZhEg

lkbm 9mo ago
That's only showing me the first paragraph. Archive.is shows the full article: https://archive.is/nzo7W https://archive.is/nzo7W

stefantalpalaru 9mo ago

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belter 9mo ago

Sounds like the Descombulator... "...In 2024, a Norwegian researcher skeptical that pulsed-energy weapons could do damage to human brains built a device and tested it on himself. It didn’t go well... ...Working in strict secrecy, a government scientist in Norway built a machine capable of emitting powerful pulses of microwave energy and, in an effort to prove such devices are harmless to humans, in 2024 tested it on himself. He suffered neurological symptoms similar to those of “Havana syndrome,” the unexplained malady that has struck hundreds of U.S. spies and diplomats around the world..."

walletdrainer 9mo ago

Do we know that this isn’t placebo?

tim333 9mo ago
Some of the symptoms of people with Havana syndrome seem very un placebo like. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome#Signs_and_symptoms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome#Signs_and_symp...

tim333 9mo ago

Another piece of evidence it was microwaves. It seems to have been GRU Unit 29155. Quite why the Russians feel the need to go around attacking everyone in weird underhand ways I don't know. I guess some grudge against US intelligence?

gus_massa 9mo ago

IIUC the guy build a device that is harmful, but there is no proof that a similar device was used in any of the "Habana syndrome" cases in the wild.

amai 9mo ago

See also "Unraveling Havana Syndrome: New evidence links the GRU's assassination Unit 29155 to mysterious attacks on U.S. officials and their families" and "Albert Averyanov": https://theins.ru/en/politics/270425 https://theins.ru/en/politics/270425

amai 9mo ago

Most probably the US has a similar weapon as the Russians and doesn't want to draw attention to it. See also "discombobulator" https://people.com/donald-trump-says-secret-discombobulator-was-used-during-nicolas-maduro-capture-11892111 https://people.com/donald-trump-says-secret-discombobulator-... a secret weapon named after a World of Warcraft gadget: https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Discombobulator_Ray https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Discombobulator_Ray