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I support that. If you tried doing the inverse, for example, migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all.

I support that. If you tried doing the inverse, for example, migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all. I’m an expat and one thing I’ve learned is to integrate myself with the culture of the country that adopted me, I believe this shows respect and that I am aligned with its values and principles.

dieortin 9mo ago
A huge majority of foreign residents in Switzerland come from Christian countries, so I don’t know what your point is.
- Gud 9mo ago
  Why is this down voted? I live in Switzerland(not from here, migrated) and this vote is not specifically against muslims.
  - KellyCriterion 9mo ago
    ...because you are on HN.... ;-)
poly2it 9mo ago
Do you truly believe Switzerland is at risk of an Islamic invasion? How do people on a platform such as HN fall for such obviously falsifiable statements? The initiative is obviously part of the global right-wing populist trend. Countries in the EU are dependent on immigration for maintaining their economies and public infrastructure as the population ages. I'm not Swiss, but the current government in Sweden has been going through with similar anti-criminal/anti-bad-immigrant (racist) politics and rethoric for four years now. As a result, there are now elderly care centers in parts of the country where 25% of all personnel have been expelled, children and even babies are taken back to their "home countries" without their parents and major domestic industry organisations are turning on the politicians they have fostered as the detrimental economic policies are killing low-wage industries in Sweden.
- KellyCriterion 9mo ago
  Curious: Do you live in Switzerland in 2025 / 2026?
- rendang 9mo ago
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  - palmaltd 9mo ago
    > As those populations are known... What a horrible calumny to casually post on a ostensibly politically-neutral website! Absolutely shameful.
    - Snow_Falls 9mo ago
      This website is notorious for these sorts of unexamined assumptions.
      - nec4b 9mo ago
        Assumption are already well examined. You just don't like the conclusions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_perpetrators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_p...
  - tastyface 9mo ago
    I modestly propose a much better solution. 99% of perpetrators of sexual assault are men. Let's just ban all males regardless of race. Given the statistics, why would you want any men in your country?
    - happytoexplain 9mo ago
      Banning a gender is much less practical than banning people from another country (I'm not explicitly defending the parent - analogies are just mostly bad and distracting).
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_diyar 9mo ago
The majority of Swiss immigrants come from Italy, Germany, Portugal, France Kosovo, and Spain.
- retired 9mo ago
  > Kosovo Technically a muslim majority country but likely not what OP ment.
retired 9mo ago
> migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all That sounds a lot like what us Europeans did in North Africa not that long ago. We were indeed not welcomed.
- happytoexplain 9mo ago
  Is the purpose of the comparison to show that it can indeed be a bad thing (i.e. you're simply agreeing with the parent), or implying that Europeans should be subject to the same treatment as punishment?
locallost 9mo ago
This is the trap that the western world has set up for itself. You cannot destroy countries on the grounds that your society is better and that it's worth the destruction to make them be like yourself, and then at the same time say forget about it when it's time to actually be better and more tolerant.
- happytoexplain 9mo ago
  Ignoring the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy (AKA "hypocrisy is the worst sin"), it doesn't even seem to follow. Wouldn't imposing your culture on less developed nations and also rejecting those cultures from your own nation be consistent behavior?
fooker 9mo ago
> bring over Christianity there Yes, this covers about a thousand years of European history. It's funny to see people pretending not to know the history of spreading Christianity and subsequently colonialism.
- happytoexplain 9mo ago
  >pretending not to know the history What are you referring to in the parent comment? It sounds like you're agreeing with them, but this antagonistic part is mysterious.
ignoramous 9mo ago
> migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all Well, Europeans ever try their hand with the Jewish one? Seem to have some previous experience there.

dieortin 9mo ago

A huge majority of foreign residents in Switzerland come from Christian countries, so I don’t know what your point is.

Gud 9mo ago
Why is this down voted? I live in Switzerland(not from here, migrated) and this vote is not specifically against muslims.
- KellyCriterion 9mo ago
  ...because you are on HN.... ;-)

poly2it 9mo ago

Do you truly believe Switzerland is at risk of an Islamic invasion? How do people on a platform such as HN fall for such obviously falsifiable statements? The initiative is obviously part of the global right-wing populist trend. Countries in the EU are dependent on immigration for maintaining their economies and public infrastructure as the population ages. I'm not Swiss, but the current government in Sweden has been going through with similar anti-criminal/anti-bad-immigrant (racist) politics and rethoric for four years now. As a result, there are now elderly care centers in parts of the country where 25% of all personnel have been expelled, children and even babies are taken back to their "home countries" without their parents and major domestic industry organisations are turning on the politicians they have fostered as the detrimental economic policies are killing low-wage industries in Sweden.

KellyCriterion 9mo ago
Curious: Do you live in Switzerland in 2025 / 2026?
rendang 9mo ago
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- palmaltd 9mo ago
  > As those populations are known... What a horrible calumny to casually post on a ostensibly politically-neutral website! Absolutely shameful.
  - Snow_Falls 9mo ago
    This website is notorious for these sorts of unexamined assumptions.
    - nec4b 9mo ago
      Assumption are already well examined. You just don't like the conclusions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_perpetrators https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_p...
- tastyface 9mo ago
  I modestly propose a much better solution. 99% of perpetrators of sexual assault are men. Let's just ban all males regardless of race. Given the statistics, why would you want any men in your country?
  - happytoexplain 9mo ago
    Banning a gender is much less practical than banning people from another country (I'm not explicitly defending the parent - analogies are just mostly bad and distracting).
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_diyar 9mo ago

The majority of Swiss immigrants come from Italy, Germany, Portugal, France Kosovo, and Spain.

retired 9mo ago
> Kosovo Technically a muslim majority country but likely not what OP ment.

retired 9mo ago

> migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all That sounds a lot like what us Europeans did in North Africa not that long ago. We were indeed not welcomed.

happytoexplain 9mo ago
Is the purpose of the comparison to show that it can indeed be a bad thing (i.e. you're simply agreeing with the parent), or implying that Europeans should be subject to the same treatment as punishment?

locallost 9mo ago

This is the trap that the western world has set up for itself. You cannot destroy countries on the grounds that your society is better and that it's worth the destruction to make them be like yourself, and then at the same time say forget about it when it's time to actually be better and more tolerant.

happytoexplain 9mo ago
Ignoring the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy (AKA "hypocrisy is the worst sin"), it doesn't even seem to follow. Wouldn't imposing your culture on less developed nations and also rejecting those cultures from your own nation be consistent behavior?

fooker 9mo ago

> bring over Christianity there Yes, this covers about a thousand years of European history. It's funny to see people pretending not to know the history of spreading Christianity and subsequently colonialism.

happytoexplain 9mo ago
>pretending not to know the history What are you referring to in the parent comment? It sounds like you're agreeing with them, but this antagonistic part is mysterious.

ignoramous 9mo ago

> migrate to an Islamic country and bring over Christianity there, you would not be welcomed at all Well, Europeans ever try their hand with the Jewish one? Seem to have some previous experience there.