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This isn't even an apology in the slightest. It's only on the UK site as well. (I've checked .de .com .fr and it's no where to be seen, which makes sense if you

This isn't even an apology in the slightest. It's only on the UK site as well. (I've checked .de .com .fr and it's no where to be seen, which makes sense if you are Apple). However, if they are going to display it only in UK, then they should have at least spelt "judgment" correctly. They use "/uk/legal-judgement/" (Over in UK there is only a single "e" not two). Anyway, totally not an apology. It looks more like an accusation and a reassertion how bitter they feel about the verdict, by cherry picking quotes to suite them. ------ (Edit: In the interest of setting the point straight since this is the top comment and it seems to be getting wrongfully upvoted, Apple didn't legally have to "make an apology". They just had to make it clear that Samsung did not infringe Apples registered design [1]. However, I do think that in spite of quoting the judgment extract verbatim, they still fall short of this requirement, since they continue for 3 more paragraph drilling out other points that supported Apple). [1] : http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para87 Sincerity at it's most "righteous": So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple's far more popular iPad.

arctangent 14y ago
Actually, "judgment" is the correct spelling in this context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_(law) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_(law)
- Vivtek 14y ago
  That's what he said - albeit a little unclearly.
coob 14y ago
Is a forced apology ever really an apology? I don't see the point in forcing it. Edit: Apparently apple were never ordered to make an 'apology'. They were ordered to make a 'publicity order'. They used the EXACT wording[1] as ordered by the court, as well as quotes from a judge in the matter. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para87 http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para8...
- aes256 14y ago
  It's not about sincerity, it's about setting the record straight. During the course of these court proceedings, the allegations against Samsung will have been widely publicised. Such allegations can cause real damage to a company's reputation, and a publicity order publicising the judgment of the court that the allegations were false is a measure to undo some of that harm.
- h4pless 14y ago
  From Wikipedia: Minimisation is a type of deception involving denial coupled with rationalisation in situations where complete denial is implausible. It is the opposite of exaggeration. 'Minimization is one of the most common ways we reduce our feelings of guilt..."It's not that big of a deal"'.
Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
So a few things: 1) The order from the court was for the UK site only. This makes sense - it was a UK ruling from a UK court which has no jurisdiction in any other countries. There are separate cases in places like Germany. It make no sense for the UK courts to force Apple to make statements in other countries covering rulings made under laws that don't apply there and which may (and in some cases do) contradict rulings made under the laws of those countries. 2) There was no demand for an apology and I'm not sure why you think that there is. The court is very specific about what has to be said which is that Apple make it clear that the court ruled that Samsung did not copy the iPad. They also include wording which must be in there and details on the font size and that there must be a link to the actual ruling. 3) Judgements is a perfectly valid spelling here in the UK, they're used interchangeably. Check justice.gov.uk if you don't believe me - you get significant numbers of hits for both. EDIT: I bow to the greater knowledge of others here - both spellings are common but it seems that judgment is the one used for legal rulings. Actual ruling here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html (Note that the appeals court changed 6 months to 1 month but upheld the link from the homepage).
- rmc 14y ago
  from a UK court Pedantically, it appears to be from a English & Welsh court, not UK.
  - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
    I live in Scotland, I really shouldn't have got that wrong.
  - aes256 14y ago
    Technically any court with jurisdiction over England and Wales is also "a UK court", in the same sense as you would refer to a German court as a "European court". It's simply describing the general location within which a court resides, not precisely demarcating its jurisdiction.
    - 14y ago
arrrg 14y ago
If I’m reading the judgment correctly, the court never asked for an apology. The court asked Apple to present certain specific information – which Apple did. That’s all.
epo 14y ago
If you are going to get snotty about spelling (you are wrong by the way, "judgement" is acceptable in the UK, a less common spelling than "judgment" certainly but not incorrect), then it is best not to end with a spelling mistake of your own. The word is "suit" not "suite", in this case the words are not interchangeable.

arctangent 14y ago

Actually, "judgment" is the correct spelling in this context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_(law) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_(law)

Vivtek 14y ago
That's what he said - albeit a little unclearly.

coob 14y ago

Is a forced apology ever really an apology? I don't see the point in forcing it. Edit: Apparently apple were never ordered to make an 'apology'. They were ordered to make a 'publicity order'. They used the EXACT wording[1] as ordered by the court, as well as quotes from a judge in the matter. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para87 http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html#para8...

aes256 14y ago
It's not about sincerity, it's about setting the record straight. During the course of these court proceedings, the allegations against Samsung will have been widely publicised. Such allegations can cause real damage to a company's reputation, and a publicity order publicising the judgment of the court that the allegations were false is a measure to undo some of that harm.
h4pless 14y ago
From Wikipedia: Minimisation is a type of deception involving denial coupled with rationalisation in situations where complete denial is implausible. It is the opposite of exaggeration. 'Minimization is one of the most common ways we reduce our feelings of guilt..."It's not that big of a deal"'.

Tyrannosaurs 14y ago

So a few things: 1) The order from the court was for the UK site only. This makes sense - it was a UK ruling from a UK court which has no jurisdiction in any other countries. There are separate cases in places like Germany. It make no sense for the UK courts to force Apple to make statements in other countries covering rulings made under laws that don't apply there and which may (and in some cases do) contradict rulings made under the laws of those countries. 2) There was no demand for an apology and I'm not sure why you think that there is. The court is very specific about what has to be said which is that Apple make it clear that the court ruled that Samsung did not copy the iPad. They also include wording which must be in there and details on the font size and that there must be a link to the actual ruling. 3) Judgements is a perfectly valid spelling here in the UK, they're used interchangeably. Check justice.gov.uk if you don't believe me - you get significant numbers of hits for both. EDIT: I bow to the greater knowledge of others here - both spellings are common but it seems that judgment is the one used for legal rulings. Actual ruling here: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html (Note that the appeals court changed 6 months to 1 month but upheld the link from the homepage).

rmc 14y ago
from a UK court Pedantically, it appears to be from a English & Welsh court, not UK.
- Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
  I live in Scotland, I really shouldn't have got that wrong.
- aes256 14y ago
  Technically any court with jurisdiction over England and Wales is also "a UK court", in the same sense as you would refer to a German court as a "European court". It's simply describing the general location within which a court resides, not precisely demarcating its jurisdiction.
  - 14y ago

arrrg 14y ago

If I’m reading the judgment correctly, the court never asked for an apology. The court asked Apple to present certain specific information – which Apple did. That’s all.

epo 14y ago

If you are going to get snotty about spelling (you are wrong by the way, "judgement" is acceptable in the UK, a less common spelling than "judgment" certainly but not incorrect), then it is best not to end with a spelling mistake of your own. The word is "suit" not "suite", in this case the words are not interchangeable.