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One day, it will matter. Not even Google can escape the consequences of infinite growth. Kryder's Law is over. We cannot rely on storage getting cheaper faster
by jl6 8mo ago
One day, it will matter. Not even Google can escape the consequences of infinite growth. Kryder's Law is over. We cannot rely on storage getting cheaper faster than we can fill it, and orgs cannot rely on being able to extract more value from data than it costs to store it. Every other org knows this already. The only difference with Google is that they have used their ad cash generator to postpone their reality check moment.
One day, somebody is going to be tasked with deciding what gets deleted. It won't be pretty. Old and unloved video will fade into JPEG noise as the compression ratio gets progressively cranked, until all that remains is a textual prompt designed to feed an AI model that can regenerate a facsimile of the original.
- asah 8mo agoYou can see how Google rolls with how they deleted old Gmail accounts - years of notice, lots of warnings, etc. They finally started deletions recently, and I haven't heard a whimper from anyone (yet).
- flux3125 8mo agoThe problem is that some content creators have already passed away (and others will pass away by then), and their videos will likely be deleted forever.
- dessimus 8mo agoMonuments erode away and memories of those enshrined are lost time as well, nothing lasts forever.
- bentcorner 8mo agoI met a user from an antique land Who said: Two squares of a clip of video Stand in at the end of the search. Near them, Lossly compressed, a profile with a pfp, whose smile, And vacant eyes, and shock of content baiting, Tell that its creator well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these unclicked things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed: And on the title these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, Top Youtuber of All Time: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and like and subscribe!" No other video beside remains. Round the decay Of that empty profile, boundless and bare The lone and level page stretch far away.
- donkeyboy 8mo agoThis is amazing.
- tempestn 8mo agoWould've been, once. These days I assume bentcorner asked their favourite LLM to generate a poem parodying Ozymandias about once-popular youtube videos.
- fragmede 8mo agoor you could get over it and still enjoy it anyway. Like how Coke Zero tastes.
- 1bpp 8mo agoIt doesn't feel like it at all (I'd never expect an LLM to say 'pfp' like that, or 'lossly[sic] compressed', ASCII instead of fancy quotes) but who knows at this point. I may have gotten incredibly neurotic about online text since 2022.
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- bentcorner 8mo agoNope, I hand wrote this. I actually considered using an LLM but in my experience they "warp" the content too much for anything like this. The effort required to get them to retain what I would consider something to my taste would take longer than just writing the poem myself. (Although tbf it's been awhile since I've asked a LLM to do parody work, so I could be wrong)
- herodoturtle 8mo agoLike tears in rain <3
- spriggancg 8mo agolet's see what will last longer over the ages : engraved stone or google?
- georgefrowny 8mo agoDepends on the pH, probably.
- ralusek 8mo agomono no aware
- zaik 8mo agoHopefully the deletion will not affect videos with thousands of views, even if the account is lost.
- loloquwowndueo 8mo ago[flagged]
- CuriouslyC 8mo agoGoog is 100% not going to delete anything that is driving any advertising at all. The videos are also useful for training AI regardless, so I expect the set of stuff that's deleted will be a VERY small subset. The difference with email is that email can be deduplicated, since it's a broadcast medium, while video is already canonical. I expect rather than deleting stuff, they'll just crank up the compression on storage of videos that are deemed "low value."
- shevy-java 8mo agoThat may be, but I assume for videos that had some viewership base, there may be a consideration. E. g. if a video was viewed 20 million times, it may be worth more than one that was viewed only 5 times.
- eMPee584 8mo agoI've stumbled upon very valuable content with very low view numbers - the algorithms spiral around spectacularity and provocation, not quality or insight.
- coldtea 8mo ago>videos that had some viewership base, there may be a consideration Those would be the worst of the lot regarding how valuable they are historically for example. Engaging BS content...
- 1313ed01 8mo agoDropbox seem to be doing the same thing. After years of whining about my 2TB above limit I recently received a mail with a deadline to delete my files or they will.
- dyauspitr 8mo agoIt depends. At the rough 2 PB of new data they get a day that’s about 10 sq ft of physical rack space per day. Each data center is like 500,000 sq feet so each data center can hold 120 years of YouTube uploads. They’re not going to have to restrict uploads anytime soon.
- semitones 8mo agoNot all of the square footage of a data center is usable for racks
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- jongjong 8mo agoOh. I noticed in an AI music generation service I use that old pieces were severely degraded to the point that they were crackling really bad... And I remember thinking that it's a good thing I downloaded an mp3 of my favorites. I confirmed that the quality is very different by listening to the downloaded recording with the hosted version side-by-side.