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Trump's creation: A Europe that spends more on defense but can stand up to US
- saubeidl 8mo agohttps://archive.ph/W8AMd https://archive.ph/W8AMd
- andsoitis 8mo agoSometimes, you resort to a stick (threats, disparagement, etc.) rather than a carrot, to get your friends to be more self-reliant and mature. It makes them stronger and then you can apply your energies to other matters.
- saubeidl 8mo agoThe problem is, once you use a stick, they might become self-reliant, but they might not want to be your friends anymore.
- andsoitis 8mo agoPossibly. On the other hand, it is reasonable to argue that the alternative has been tried for decades and didn't work. Moreover, since the stakes have gotten so much higher with China's ascendency, it is worth the risk. When you keep on giving money to a friend to help them, they never learn to stand on their own feet. It creates a dependency not of true friendship, but of subservience.
- saubeidl 8mo agoIt pushes your former friend to align closer with China, making it a geopolitical own goal...
- andsoitis 8mo agoRisk worth taking. The EU and China have vastly different political, economic, and social orientation, so while they might align more closely on some things, I think America and the EU will always be much closer to each other.
- saubeidl 8mo agoThe same can be said for the EU and the US - what do they have in common in the areas you mentioned?
- cindyllm 8mo ago[dead]
- mytailorisrich 8mo ago[flagged]
- saubeidl 8mo agoSure, the EU has crafted a campaign where JD Vance comes to Munich and tells us the US is abandoning us. How perfidious of them! Enlisting the US executive in their evil plans! The conspiratorial thinking on display here is unreal.
- mytailorisrich 8mo agoIt seems very clear that the EU and EU leaders had that plan for a long time but that was always a hard sell to the public (even played a part in the Brexit referendum). Ukraine and the current US administration are used tactically to sell the plan to the public. It is being very naive and gullible not to see that. Re. JD Vance, I think he actually hit the nail on the head and that's why the reactions from the EU and EU leaders were so strong to attack and discredit him.
- saubeidl 8mo agoI wish we had done this 30 years ago, but EU leaders were weak cowards that had no such plans until they finally had to face reality. We either get torn apart between the major powers or we become a major power ourself. To deny this simple fact is suicidal and I do not wish to be pulled to ruin with you.
- mytailorisrich 8mo agoClaiming that a course of action is the only way and that there is no alternative, and that opposing it is being an enemy, a traitor, or "suicidal", is an age old trick, too. In this case, claiming that giving up on our countries as sovereign states must happen to compete against China or the US is an obvious oxymoron and rather insane.
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- sylware 8mo agoBut they are kind of forced to buy US defense equipement, that to have US tatical nukes (any significant invasion army will be nuked).
- lawn 8mo agoSo Trump is a mastermind playing 4D chess? Yeah, no.
- edsfdfdfs 8mo agoNever forget the system works because people believe in it. America has just given up the privileges they have enjoyed for many years now. Also, do not count on the USA credit rating to be set in stone. For me personally, I have moved my pension fund to a fund, which does not invest in US treasury and I have a feeling a lot of other people will be doing this too. Its going to be a slow painful heat death for the USA frogs.
- geenkeuse 8mo ago[dead]