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Looks like Ars is doing an investigation and will give an update on Tuesday https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/um-what-happened-to-the-article-after-a-routin

Looks like Ars is doing an investigation and will give an update on Tuesday https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/um-what-happened-to-the-article-after-a-routine-code-rejection-an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-someone-by-name.1511658/post-44250159 https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/um-what-happened-to-th...

ddtaylor 8mo ago
They have an opportunity to do the right thing. I don't think everyone will be outraged at the idea that you are using AI to assist in writing your articles. I do think many will be outraged by trying to save such a small amount of face and digging yourself into a hole of lies.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > don't think everyone will be outraged at the idea that you are using AI to assist in writing your articles Lying about direct quotations is a fireable offense at any reputable journalistic outfit. Ars basically has to choose if it’s a glorified blog or real publication.
  - llbbdd 8mo ago
    It's owned by Conde Nast. They know what they are.
  - deleted 8mo ago
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- danso 8mo ago
  This is not using AI to “assist in writing your articles”. This is using AI to report your articles, and then passing it off as your own research and analysis. This is straight up plagiarism, and if the allegations are true, the reporters deserve what they would get if it were traditional plagiarism: immediate firings.
  - meowface 8mo ago
    Yeah, I have been extremely pro-AI and have been for decades, and I use LLMs daily, but this is not an acceptable use of an LLM. Especially since it's fabricating quotes, so there's the plagiarism issue and then the veracity issue. And it's doing this to report on an incident of someone being bizarrely accosted by LLMs. Just such a ridiculous situation all around.
    - ddtaylor 7mo ago
      Do you think Ars is lazy or ambitious?
      - bombcar 7mo ago
        Anyone ambitious left after Condé Nast showed up. So that leaves one option remaining.
  - jcgrillo 8mo ago
    Not just the reporter, anyone who had eyes on it before it was published. And whoever is responsible for setting the culture that allowed this to happen.
  - ddtaylor 8mo ago
    > This is straight up plagiarism More likely libel. > the reporters deserve what they would get if it were traditional plagiarism: immediate firings. I don't give a fuck who gets fired when I have been publicly defamed. I care about being compensated for damages caused to me. If a tow truck company backed into my house I would be much less concerned about the internal workings of some random tow truck company than I would be ensuring my house was repaired.
  - stingraycharles 7mo ago
    I thought it was very obvious AI is doing almost everything of most of the news outlets these days. Especially the ones that only ever had an online presence.
  - grey-area 7mo ago
llbbdd 7mo ago
Lmao an investigation. They're riding it out over a long weekend, at which point it won't be at the top of this site, where all their critical traffic comes from, so they can keep planting turds at the top of Google News for everyone else.
- llbbdd 7mo ago
  Called it

ddtaylor 8mo ago

They have an opportunity to do the right thing. I don't think everyone will be outraged at the idea that you are using AI to assist in writing your articles. I do think many will be outraged by trying to save such a small amount of face and digging yourself into a hole of lies.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> don't think everyone will be outraged at the idea that you are using AI to assist in writing your articles Lying about direct quotations is a fireable offense at any reputable journalistic outfit. Ars basically has to choose if it’s a glorified blog or real publication.
- llbbdd 8mo ago
  It's owned by Conde Nast. They know what they are.
- deleted 8mo ago
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danso 8mo ago
This is not using AI to “assist in writing your articles”. This is using AI to report your articles, and then passing it off as your own research and analysis. This is straight up plagiarism, and if the allegations are true, the reporters deserve what they would get if it were traditional plagiarism: immediate firings.
- meowface 8mo ago
  Yeah, I have been extremely pro-AI and have been for decades, and I use LLMs daily, but this is not an acceptable use of an LLM. Especially since it's fabricating quotes, so there's the plagiarism issue and then the veracity issue. And it's doing this to report on an incident of someone being bizarrely accosted by LLMs. Just such a ridiculous situation all around.
  - ddtaylor 7mo ago
    Do you think Ars is lazy or ambitious?
    - bombcar 7mo ago
      Anyone ambitious left after Condé Nast showed up. So that leaves one option remaining.
- jcgrillo 8mo ago
  Not just the reporter, anyone who had eyes on it before it was published. And whoever is responsible for setting the culture that allowed this to happen.
- ddtaylor 8mo ago
  > This is straight up plagiarism More likely libel. > the reporters deserve what they would get if it were traditional plagiarism: immediate firings. I don't give a fuck who gets fired when I have been publicly defamed. I care about being compensated for damages caused to me. If a tow truck company backed into my house I would be much less concerned about the internal workings of some random tow truck company than I would be ensuring my house was repaired.
- stingraycharles 7mo ago
  I thought it was very obvious AI is doing almost everything of most of the news outlets these days. Especially the ones that only ever had an online presence.
- grey-area 7mo ago

llbbdd 7mo ago

Lmao an investigation. They're riding it out over a long weekend, at which point it won't be at the top of this site, where all their critical traffic comes from, so they can keep planting turds at the top of Google News for everyone else.

llbbdd 7mo ago
Called it