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Also why did they get rid of select all? Is there any excuse for that?

by raylad 8mo ago

DamnInteresting 8mo ago
It's still there, it's just difficult to know when it will appear. Sometimes it takes one more tap than expected, or sometimes one must deselect a word and tap again, or change focus away and back again. Very sloppy UI.
- filoleg 8mo ago
  Yeah, it is still there, and there is a pretty clear cut logic for when it will appear. If you tap while a word is selected, it won’t appear. If you tap on the cursor while a word isn’t selected, it will appear.
  - DamnInteresting 8mo ago
    If by "clear cut logic" you mean a consistent process, then sure. But if you mean intuitive, I must disagree.
    - microtonal 8mo ago
      Especially because it was working fine and understandable in older iOS versions. Also for some reason autocorrect seems to have gotten a lot worse. It has become nearly impossible to type a grocery list without all kinds of annoying wrong corrections.
    - filoleg 8mo ago
      Yeah, good point. Your guess was right, I meant it in the sense of consistency, not in the sense of it being intuitive without knowing about it
bobbylarrybobby 8mo ago
Select all always appears if you have no text selected and never appears if you have some text selected. Insane UI decision by apple but that's how it is.
- thehappyfellow 8mo ago
  Which means you can't select all on text which isn't editable - insane!
  - leptons 8mo ago
    It honestly doesn't surprise me. Apple is not some bastion of good design. They are mediocre at best, always have been. It was pretty hilarious to me that for so many years the keyboard on iOS only had CAPITAL letters. No matter the state of the shift key, the letters on the keyboard just stayed the same. After many years they finally figured it out, but it's one example of many about how Apple just doesn't have the great UX people claim they do.
    - tambourine_man 8mo ago
      I actually prefer the all caps keyboard and switch it on on iOS. It looks like a physical keyboard and the constant flicking between upper/lowercase is distracting and annoying
      - leptons 8mo ago
        Well good for you, I guess?
      - b112 8mo ago
        As bfinn once said on IRC, as he wrote in caps: <BFINN/#debian> ALL BIG LETTER ON KEYBOARD HERE!! <CosmicRay/#debian> haha <BFINN/#debian> TO NO LITTLE LETTER! https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.amiga.misc/c/7AdXvE7KQzk/m/N7y3Z4yAi_cJ https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.amiga.misc/c/7AdXvE7KQz...
      - 8mo ago
jorl17 8mo ago
YES. WHY?! GOD WHY!?!!?!?!?! I'M GOING INSANE!!
razingeden 8mo ago
My favorite ( /s) IOS hassle - aside from running around on 12% battery at all times, didn’t I buy a pro max for the extended capacity ? - … is not being able to paste into an empty box unless I type a letter there and select it/clobber it/overwrite it And I just LOOOOOVE not being able to tap a URL in safari and get to the end of it to add parameters or change a path anymore… Just gave my MacBook that hasn’t been turned on in months away(i haaaaate Tahoe) and been using GrapheneOS on a pixel 7a. so far I’m not in love with it but I’m getting used to it and starting to like downloading apps anonymously (if I name the app, I’ll probably get scolded) anyway this might be the end of the line for me and Apple.
everdrive 8mo ago
They're a modern tech company. They need to changes things every so often no matter what downsides come with the change.

Also why did they get rid of select all? Is there any excuse for that?

by raylad 8mo ago

Also why did they get rid of select all? Is there any excuse for that?

It's still there, it's just difficult to know when it will appear. Sometimes it takes one more tap than expected, or sometimes one must deselect a word and tap again, or change focus away and back again. Very sloppy UI.

filoleg 8mo ago
Yeah, it is still there, and there is a pretty clear cut logic for when it will appear. If you tap while a word is selected, it won’t appear. If you tap on the cursor while a word isn’t selected, it will appear.
- DamnInteresting 8mo ago
  If by "clear cut logic" you mean a consistent process, then sure. But if you mean intuitive, I must disagree.
  - microtonal 8mo ago
    Especially because it was working fine and understandable in older iOS versions. Also for some reason autocorrect seems to have gotten a lot worse. It has become nearly impossible to type a grocery list without all kinds of annoying wrong corrections.
  - filoleg 8mo ago
    Yeah, good point. Your guess was right, I meant it in the sense of consistency, not in the sense of it being intuitive without knowing about it

bobbylarrybobby 8mo ago

Select all always appears if you have no text selected and never appears if you have some text selected. Insane UI decision by apple but that's how it is.

thehappyfellow 8mo ago
Which means you can't select all on text which isn't editable - insane!
- leptons 8mo ago
  It honestly doesn't surprise me. Apple is not some bastion of good design. They are mediocre at best, always have been. It was pretty hilarious to me that for so many years the keyboard on iOS only had CAPITAL letters. No matter the state of the shift key, the letters on the keyboard just stayed the same. After many years they finally figured it out, but it's one example of many about how Apple just doesn't have the great UX people claim they do.
  - tambourine_man 8mo ago
    I actually prefer the all caps keyboard and switch it on on iOS. It looks like a physical keyboard and the constant flicking between upper/lowercase is distracting and annoying
    - leptons 8mo ago
      Well good for you, I guess?
    - b112 8mo ago
      As bfinn once said on IRC, as he wrote in caps: <BFINN/#debian> ALL BIG LETTER ON KEYBOARD HERE!! <CosmicRay/#debian> haha <BFINN/#debian> TO NO LITTLE LETTER! https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.amiga.misc/c/7AdXvE7KQzk/m/N7y3Z4yAi_cJ https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.amiga.misc/c/7AdXvE7KQz...
    - 8mo ago

jorl17 8mo ago

YES. WHY?! GOD WHY!?!!?!?!?! I'M GOING INSANE!!

razingeden 8mo ago

My favorite ( /s) IOS hassle - aside from running around on 12% battery at all times, didn’t I buy a pro max for the extended capacity ? - … is not being able to paste into an empty box unless I type a letter there and select it/clobber it/overwrite it And I just LOOOOOVE not being able to tap a URL in safari and get to the end of it to add parameters or change a path anymore… Just gave my MacBook that hasn’t been turned on in months away(i haaaaate Tahoe) and been using GrapheneOS on a pixel 7a. so far I’m not in love with it but I’m getting used to it and starting to like downloading apps anonymously (if I name the app, I’ll probably get scolded) anyway this might be the end of the line for me and Apple.

everdrive 8mo ago

They're a modern tech company. They need to changes things every so often no matter what downsides come with the change.