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A bit off-topic, but it's interesting how the first thing I check now is whether this is a vibe coded app (which it seems to be) or something that had serious e

A bit off-topic, but it's interesting how the first thing I check now is whether this is a vibe coded app (which it seems to be) or something that had serious effort put into it.

darkwater 8mo ago
Define "effort". I mean, "effort" to me in this context is what the creator of $project thinks it is worth their time. Don't you agree? If you want to learn a new computer language yourself, vibecoding will probably not help you. If you want to create something to scratch your itch, and spend time and mental effort in getting it polished, isn't that effort? It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a good app/site that solves a need in an elegant, functional manner for the user.
- ramon156 8mo ago
  You're offering a product, not a vibe project, so I disagree. If vibe coding would lower cost while maintaining quality then this would be a fair argument, but the reality is that its a lazy way and frankly it's not programming.
  - darkwater 8mo ago
    GP was speaking of the first thing they now check on every new project they find is whether it's vibecoded or there is actual "effort" in it. Hence my comment.
- hackyhacky 8mo ago
  > It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a good app/site that solves a need in an elegant, functional manner for the user. This feels like a vibecoded comment. To address the "substance" of your "comment": yes, creating a polished product requires effort, but this is not a polished product: as pointed out by numerous commenters, it provides nothing new, and what it does provide is broken. Thus the GP's comment that it is vibecoded slop and not worth taking seriously.
  - darkwater 8mo ago
    My rhetorical question was broader, because GP comment was a generic one, not specific to this project. I would ask you to be more mindful in your replies.
    - hackyhacky 8mo ago
      > My rhetorical question was broader, It doesn't matter, the answer is the same. Using vibecoding is less effort that not using it, so of late we see a lot of low-effort vibecoding projects, of which this is one. Ergo, vibecoding is an easily-spotted red flag for projects that are not worth taking seriously. > I would ask you to be more mindful in your replies. You should take your own advice. Also, don't be a dick.
      - darkwater 8mo ago
        > It doesn't matter, the answer is the same. Using vibecoding is less effort that not using it, so of late we see a lot of low-effort vibecoding projects, of which this is one. Ergo, vibecoding is an easily-spotted red flag for projects that are not worth taking seriously. And the whole point of my initial reply was to question the definition of "effort". > You should take your own advice. Also, don't be a dick. I think your reply perfectly illustrates the situation. Not a fruitful discussion anyway, enjoy clicking down arrows.
- loveparade 8mo ago
  I think your last point is the important one. I don't mind vibe coded app if they are polished. But a polished vibe coded app looks like a non-vibe-coded app because of the polishing. The polishing is 95% of the effort. This app here looks fully vibe coded, without much polishing, at least to me.

A bit off-topic, but it's interesting how the first thing I check now is whether this is a vibe coded app (which it seems to be) or something that had serious effort put into it.

darkwater 8mo ago

Define "effort". I mean, "effort" to me in this context is what the creator of $project thinks it is worth their time. Don't you agree? If you want to learn a new computer language yourself, vibecoding will probably not help you. If you want to create something to scratch your itch, and spend time and mental effort in getting it polished, isn't that effort? It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a good app/site that solves a need in an elegant, functional manner for the user.

ramon156 8mo ago
You're offering a product, not a vibe project, so I disagree. If vibe coding would lower cost while maintaining quality then this would be a fair argument, but the reality is that its a lazy way and frankly it's not programming.
- darkwater 8mo ago
  GP was speaking of the first thing they now check on every new project they find is whether it's vibecoded or there is actual "effort" in it. Hence my comment.
hackyhacky 8mo ago
> It is not automatic, even with vibecoding, getting out a good app/site that solves a need in an elegant, functional manner for the user. This feels like a vibecoded comment. To address the "substance" of your "comment": yes, creating a polished product requires effort, but this is not a polished product: as pointed out by numerous commenters, it provides nothing new, and what it does provide is broken. Thus the GP's comment that it is vibecoded slop and not worth taking seriously.
- darkwater 8mo ago
  My rhetorical question was broader, because GP comment was a generic one, not specific to this project. I would ask you to be more mindful in your replies.
  - hackyhacky 8mo ago
    > My rhetorical question was broader, It doesn't matter, the answer is the same. Using vibecoding is less effort that not using it, so of late we see a lot of low-effort vibecoding projects, of which this is one. Ergo, vibecoding is an easily-spotted red flag for projects that are not worth taking seriously. > I would ask you to be more mindful in your replies. You should take your own advice. Also, don't be a dick.
    - darkwater 8mo ago
      > It doesn't matter, the answer is the same. Using vibecoding is less effort that not using it, so of late we see a lot of low-effort vibecoding projects, of which this is one. Ergo, vibecoding is an easily-spotted red flag for projects that are not worth taking seriously. And the whole point of my initial reply was to question the definition of "effort". > You should take your own advice. Also, don't be a dick. I think your reply perfectly illustrates the situation. Not a fruitful discussion anyway, enjoy clicking down arrows.
loveparade 8mo ago
I think your last point is the important one. I don't mind vibe coded app if they are polished. But a polished vibe coded app looks like a non-vibe-coded app because of the polishing. The polishing is 95% of the effort. This app here looks fully vibe coded, without much polishing, at least to me.