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Show me a FOSS license where a commitment to indefinite maintenance is promised.

by 627467 8mo ago

account42 8mo ago
Social contracts are typically unwritten so the license would be the wrong place to look for it.
- skeledrew 8mo ago
  If it's neither written nor explicitly spoken, then it's not a contract of any kind. It's just an - usually naive - expectation.
  - account42 8mo ago
    A social contract isn't a legal contract to begin with, but even for those "written or explicitly spoken" is not a hard requirement.
    - skeledrew 8mo ago
      A social contract still has to be explicit in some way to be considered such. Otherwise it's just an accepted convention.
      - jhbadger 8mo ago
        That's not what a social contract is you are thinking of a legal contract, something very different. A social contract is by definition, implicit rather than explicit.
  - dbacar 8mo ago
    It was not expectation when they started, did a lot to lure many into the ecosystem. When you release it free, wait for the momentum to build, then you cut off, it is something else. And the worse is they did it in a very short time. Check out elasticsearch, the same route but did not abandon the 7 release like this.
    - skeledrew 8mo ago
      I know all about ElasticSearch, MongoDB, Redis, etc. Yes, what they did sucks. No, it doesn't make the maintainers bad or anything. It's still on the user to know that anything can happen to that spiffy project they've been using for a while, and so be prepared to migrate at any time.
- PKop 8mo ago
  > Social contracts are typically unwritten Maybe this is the case, but why is your presumption of entitlement to free labor of others the assumed social contract, the assumed "moral" position, rather than the immoral one? Why is the assumed social contract that is unwritten not that you can have the free labor we've released to you so far, but we owe you nothing in the future? There's too much assumption of the premise that "moral" and "social contract" are terms that make the entitled demands of free-loaders the good guys in this debate. Maybe the better "morality" is the selfless workers giving away the product of their labor for free are the actual good guys.

Show me a FOSS license where a commitment to indefinite maintenance is promised.

by 627467 8mo ago

Show me a FOSS license where a commitment to indefinite maintenance is promised.

account42 8mo ago

Social contracts are typically unwritten so the license would be the wrong place to look for it.

skeledrew 8mo ago
If it's neither written nor explicitly spoken, then it's not a contract of any kind. It's just an - usually naive - expectation.
- account42 8mo ago
  A social contract isn't a legal contract to begin with, but even for those "written or explicitly spoken" is not a hard requirement.
  - skeledrew 8mo ago
    A social contract still has to be explicit in some way to be considered such. Otherwise it's just an accepted convention.
    - jhbadger 8mo ago
      That's not what a social contract is you are thinking of a legal contract, something very different. A social contract is by definition, implicit rather than explicit.
- dbacar 8mo ago
  It was not expectation when they started, did a lot to lure many into the ecosystem. When you release it free, wait for the momentum to build, then you cut off, it is something else. And the worse is they did it in a very short time. Check out elasticsearch, the same route but did not abandon the 7 release like this.
  - skeledrew 8mo ago
    I know all about ElasticSearch, MongoDB, Redis, etc. Yes, what they did sucks. No, it doesn't make the maintainers bad or anything. It's still on the user to know that anything can happen to that spiffy project they've been using for a while, and so be prepared to migrate at any time.
PKop 8mo ago
> Social contracts are typically unwritten Maybe this is the case, but why is your presumption of entitlement to free labor of others the assumed social contract, the assumed "moral" position, rather than the immoral one? Why is the assumed social contract that is unwritten not that you can have the free labor we've released to you so far, but we owe you nothing in the future? There's too much assumption of the premise that "moral" and "social contract" are terms that make the entitled demands of free-loaders the good guys in this debate. Maybe the better "morality" is the selfless workers giving away the product of their labor for free are the actual good guys.