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> In modern days, most cars have an anti-theft feature that restricts the turning of the steering wheel if the key is not inserted in the ignition This needs u
by gpderetta 8mo ago
> In modern days, most cars have an anti-theft feature that restricts the turning of the steering wheel if the key is not inserted in the ignition
This needs updating:
> In the past, most cars had an anti-theft feature that restricted the turning of the steering wheel if the key was not inserted in the ignition. These days, for convenience, is enough that the key has been in the vicinity of the car in the recent past.
- formerly_proven 8mo agoIt’s a lemon market, as a car buyer there are no outward telling features whether the keyless entry system is susceptible to repeater attacks (most new cars still are), whether just anyone briefly inside the car can register new keys, whether it uses strong crypto, or whether a couple grand buy you a master key that unlocks and puts into drive most cars of a brand (famously Kia/Hyundai to this day, who also have all of the other vulnerabilities). Car reviews don’t mention any of these things, even when they are definitely known and tested (rarely) by some third parties. Strangely, not even the OEMs who have secure systems use them for advertising.
- never_inline 8mo agoAre there any car brands which don't do this fancy-useless-tech kind of thing? I have never driven a car, but a motorcycle with handle-lock would never be unlocked without the physical key.
- formerly_proven 8mo agoI see no point in becoming a luddite given the availability of secure solutions. Keyless entry is great, it just has to be secure (d'uh).