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You can use an expensive AWS VM instead of an expensive AWS bare–metal image. Does anyone realise how expensive AWS is, even in the best case?
by direwolf20 8mo ago
You can use an expensive AWS VM instead of an expensive AWS bare–metal image. Does anyone realise how expensive AWS is, even in the best case?
- PunchyHamster 8mo agoIt is expensive. But the point where it stops being expensive is far above most companies use case. If you're paying less than a developers salary for hosting you most likely won't see all that many benefits from moving. Renting a server from cheaper hosting providers can be massive savings but you now need to re-invent all of the AWS APIs you use or might use and it's big CAPEX time investment. And any new feature you need, whether that's queue, mail gateway or thousand other APIs need to be deployed and managed first before you can even start testing. It's less work now than it was before just due to amount of tools there are to automate it but it's still more work that you could be spending on improving your product.
- re-thc 8mo ago> but you now need to re-invent all of the AWS APIs you use or might use and it's big CAPEX time investment Or maybe you just never needed most of these in the first place. People got into this "AWS" mentality like it is the only way to do things. Everything had to be in a queue, event driven etc. I'd argue not using AWS means simplifying things and it'll be less expensive not just in server cost but developer time.
- stoneforger 8mo agoYou don't get how this works. You buy in AWS because everyone else is , so it's expected. It diffuses risk to your stock options. This also begets a whole generation of people who can only use cloud services so now you are more hard pressed to find people with experience to run things without the cloud. You also create a bigger expenses sheet so it shows you're investing and growing, attracting more investors. "We pay 10 mil in AWS , we're that big". It's classic perverse incentives feeding into a monoculture.
- notyourwork 8mo agoAgreed. Some threads make the suggestion you replied to and seemingly fail to ignore the reality of business. Not all businesses want to insource all problems.
- j45 8mo agoIf you ever used the aws apis to begin with. Folks are increasingly staying cloud agnostic - meaning install and run the open source package that a cloud packages yourself. It’s surprising how many are ready to go today compared to 10 years ago.
- pezgrande 8mo agoSystem admins are probably cheaper that Cloud experts devops.
- rirze 8mo agoGood system admins? No.
- drizmans 8mo ago[dead]
- PunchyHamster 8mo agoNot at scale to run your own bunch of servers competently.