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> (example: cannibalism) which people are now taking as the truth I haven’t seen any indication of “people that didn’t previously believe in cannibal elites no

> (example: cannibalism) which people are now taking as the truth I haven’t seen any indication of “people that didn’t previously believe in cannibal elites now believe in cannibal elites after reading the emails” being a phenomenon that actually exists. I’ve yet to interact with anyone that has seriously said “I didn’t believe they ate babies on Tuesday but it is Thursday and now I believe they were eating babies.” but people are posting like that’s a thing that happens frequently now. It’s almost like the tinfoil hat theory I’ve seen the most isn’t “pedophile cannibals” but rather “reading the emails will make you go crazy and start believing in cannibal pedophiles” like they are an actual real-life Lovecraftian hazard, which is a much more outlandish idea than… kooks and hucksters continuing to be kooks and hucksters.

anechouapechou 9mo ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein https://www.justice.gov/epstein Search "jerky"
- jrflowers 9mo ago
  I have read the jerky emails, and watched a long discussion of them between a bunch of folks, and I still don’t know a single person that went from not believing in cannibals to believing in cannibals. The range of responses I ultimately saw was “this proves my existing belief that they were eating babies” to “wow that guy’s colon must’ve been a disaster”. The “I already believed they were eating babies” crowd lost a lot of steam and went quiet as soon as someone pointed out that there are several reasons why people refrigerate jerky (high-fat jerky, lack of nitrites in the recipe, humid conditions, etc.)
  - RajT88 8mo ago
    I'm absolutely on board that "jerky" may mean something else. But on balance - he kept on staff a professional chef of some acclaim who was known for selling amazing jerky at his restaurant. That restaurant incidentally included the word "cannibal" in the name. I'm on the fence between "jerky" literally meaning jerky and something else (the discussion sure is weird), but I'm going to need a lot more to think it is human meat.
    - jrflowers 8mo ago
      > I'm on the fence between "jerky" literally meaning jerky and something else (the discussion sure is weird), but I'm going to need a lot more to think it is human meat. Oh absolutely, I agree. That aside, given what I’ve read I’d expect to see something more like “lo=v d th hu=mn babme,et . can u sed mro baby meat ,, th stuff from hunam b.by that we at on my ranch in New Mexico on March 3rd of this year? got a guy @ fedex can do human baby meat shiping sez just declare it’s a h=midor and itl go thru. Sorry for all my typos, I am on my iPhone. Sent from my BlackBerry For Business”
RajT88 9mo ago
If it helps explain where my comment was coming from, my friend I advised to take a break from the files was neck deep in every single new speculation because he himself was a survivor of CSA. He sent me a lot of stuff and was on the "believing in cannibal pedophiles" track for sure, and by the videos I was sent, lots of other people are on that track too. It was especially bad for his mental health, all of these new speculative theories.
- jrflowers 9mo ago
  I don’t doubt that. I’ve read a lot of the emails, had to tap out myself, and seen a lot of people tap out as well. What I haven’t seen is some sort of contagion where the cannibalism stuff is all of a sudden being embraced by a new group of people. It’s pretty much just been people that have had the Clinton’s adrenochrome theories and blood libel etc. in the stuff they that they read for a while that are talking about it. I’ll put it this way: if somebody believes that it is more likely that people were eating babies than the fact that it’s actually somewhat common to refrigerate beef jerky, it’s because they’ve already been primed to think that way; there are several leaps in belief that have to take place before that becomes an even acceptable notion to consider let alone something to earnestly take as gospel. I’ve seen 20x more people have to stop after reading about Leon Black than the cannibalism/“he’s still alive” stuff (because there aren’t actually that many people that believe in cannibal elites, they’re just very vocal). Heck, I’ve seen quite a few more people have to step back after reading about Epstein funding the bitcoin devs than after reading the more kook stuff. If there’s any sort of general “hazard” in the emails it’s not the things that aren’t true, it’s the things that are.

anechouapechou 9mo ago

https://www.justice.gov/epstein https://www.justice.gov/epstein Search "jerky"

jrflowers 9mo ago
I have read the jerky emails, and watched a long discussion of them between a bunch of folks, and I still don’t know a single person that went from not believing in cannibals to believing in cannibals. The range of responses I ultimately saw was “this proves my existing belief that they were eating babies” to “wow that guy’s colon must’ve been a disaster”. The “I already believed they were eating babies” crowd lost a lot of steam and went quiet as soon as someone pointed out that there are several reasons why people refrigerate jerky (high-fat jerky, lack of nitrites in the recipe, humid conditions, etc.)
- RajT88 8mo ago
  I'm absolutely on board that "jerky" may mean something else. But on balance - he kept on staff a professional chef of some acclaim who was known for selling amazing jerky at his restaurant. That restaurant incidentally included the word "cannibal" in the name. I'm on the fence between "jerky" literally meaning jerky and something else (the discussion sure is weird), but I'm going to need a lot more to think it is human meat.
  - jrflowers 8mo ago
    > I'm on the fence between "jerky" literally meaning jerky and something else (the discussion sure is weird), but I'm going to need a lot more to think it is human meat. Oh absolutely, I agree. That aside, given what I’ve read I’d expect to see something more like “lo=v d th hu=mn babme,et . can u sed mro baby meat ,, th stuff from hunam b.by that we at on my ranch in New Mexico on March 3rd of this year? got a guy @ fedex can do human baby meat shiping sez just declare it’s a h=midor and itl go thru. Sorry for all my typos, I am on my iPhone. Sent from my BlackBerry For Business”

RajT88 9mo ago

If it helps explain where my comment was coming from, my friend I advised to take a break from the files was neck deep in every single new speculation because he himself was a survivor of CSA. He sent me a lot of stuff and was on the "believing in cannibal pedophiles" track for sure, and by the videos I was sent, lots of other people are on that track too. It was especially bad for his mental health, all of these new speculative theories.

jrflowers 9mo ago
I don’t doubt that. I’ve read a lot of the emails, had to tap out myself, and seen a lot of people tap out as well. What I haven’t seen is some sort of contagion where the cannibalism stuff is all of a sudden being embraced by a new group of people. It’s pretty much just been people that have had the Clinton’s adrenochrome theories and blood libel etc. in the stuff they that they read for a while that are talking about it. I’ll put it this way: if somebody believes that it is more likely that people were eating babies than the fact that it’s actually somewhat common to refrigerate beef jerky, it’s because they’ve already been primed to think that way; there are several leaps in belief that have to take place before that becomes an even acceptable notion to consider let alone something to earnestly take as gospel. I’ve seen 20x more people have to stop after reading about Leon Black than the cannibalism/“he’s still alive” stuff (because there aren’t actually that many people that believe in cannibal elites, they’re just very vocal). Heck, I’ve seen quite a few more people have to step back after reading about Epstein funding the bitcoin devs than after reading the more kook stuff. If there’s any sort of general “hazard” in the emails it’s not the things that aren’t true, it’s the things that are.