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> Following a comprehensive review, we determined the planned Flock Safety integration would require significantly more time and resources than anticipated. Th
by dabinat 9mo ago
> Following a comprehensive review, we determined the planned Flock Safety integration would require significantly more time and resources than anticipated.
That doesn’t sound like “we’re cancelling this because our customers let us know loud and clear that they were ethically against this”. If the only thing keeping them from doing this is time and money, what guarantee do we have that they won’t do it again if time and money allow?
- idle_zealot 9mo agoYou seem to be taking the company's words at face value and assuming good faith. I would caution against doing that.
- riversflow 9mo agoAmazing how often people do that. Corporations have very little incentive to be truthful and often have good reason to be dishonest. I notice it particularly wrt video games, gamers are always taking studio’s messaging as gospel and not corporate comms.
- direwolf20 9mo agoAnd with Elon Musk! If he says we're going to Mars, then we're going to Mars. If he says full self driving next year, we're getting full self driving next year. He said that every year for 10 years? So what?
- ponector 9mo agoI see this all the time at work. Folks treat their relationship with employer like a personal relationship. Be loyal to company and it will be loyal to you. But everyone lies. Your managers will stab you in the back and throw to the ditch anytime they can gain something from it.
- andwur 9mo agoOne needs to only witness an exec team or board meeting to realise that loyalty as a concept doesn't exist at the top for the vast majority of companies. You're 1.8% of the accounts department budget, or 0.02% of the head office budget. Which is looking a bit high in the face of our projected earnings this quarter. Best get HR to trim that by 10% to free up some cashflow for sales and initiatives. Actually, make that 20%. Bonuses were a bit thin last round and I need a new yacht.
- anshumankmr 9mo agoGaming companies can be pretty stupid at communications honestly.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Battlefront_II_(2017_video_game)#%22Pride_and_accomplishment%22_comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Battlefront_II_(2017...
- SecretDreams 9mo agoLook, Amazon has our best interest at heart, alright? Surely they're not working on this still in the background.
- crazygringo 9mo agoAt the end of day, Amazon is a business, not an extension of the police or the FBI. They initially partnered with Flock because they thought this would be a feature people would want. They literally bought a crazy expensive Super Bowl ad to show it off. Turns out people didn't. So now they're not doing it. Amazon's only interest is to make money.
- SecretDreams 9mo ago> Amazon's only interest is to make money And they make more money when they're on the right side of whatever gov du jour is running America.
- nerdponx 9mo agoOr when the gov du jour is for sale, they can do whatever they want because they and their CEO can afford just about any price.
- AlecSchueler 9mo agoI took it more as holding them to their actual words and highlighting how they weaseled on the obvious ethical concerns and fear over backlash.
- pseudohadamard 9mo agoIn particular, they can publicly walk back their position now and then quietly reintroduce it later when the fuss has died down.
- chmod775 9mo agoThey're saying that because saying what they actually mean would paint flock in a negative light, which they likely want to avoid for various reasons.
- stalfosknight 9mo agoSo they'd rather lie in their press release.
- delfinom 9mo agoHappens every single day in corporate PR. And it's largely legal as long as it doesn't affect their stock price too much in either direction.
- riversflow 9mo agoYes? Not like we can prove one way or the other.
- kelipso 9mo agoHuh so weird, companies never do that.
- selcuka 9mo ago> companies never do that You must be a company.
- ryandrake 9mo agoYou really think someone would do that? Just write a press release and tell lies?
- BrenBarn 9mo agoWe would never have any guarantee of that no matter what they said.
- nomercy400 9mo agoThat also sounds like the client came with list of additional requirements. The ethical part you mentioned is still true.
- kotaKat 9mo ago"The integration never launched, so no Ring customer videos were ever sent to Flock Safety" Certainly sounds like "We have the integration and we successfully funneled test videos off of internal Ring cameras to Flock".
- nijave 9mo ago>more time and resources than anticipated It doesn't say for whom. That could easily be the legal and marketing department to cover the backlash
- dv_dt 9mo agoThat public statement could easily be an open negotiation tactic saying they'll do it, but want more money to do it. Especially if it is gov't money which would be paying for that feed.
- nerdponx 9mo agoIt's saving face. It lets them bail out without actually badmouthing Flock or any related companies, which, yes, lets them do it again later.