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Yeah, it was one of those things I noticed when I first started using Linux and wondered why every other OS didn't just copy it.

cosmic_cheese 8mo ago
Probably just simple resistance to use of modifier keys in non-technical users, at least on the Windows side. A lot of users never touch a modifier except for Ctrl for copy/paste and maybe Windows for start menu search. On the Mac side where key combos and modifier use is more widespread among users, it’s probably because there’s no intuitive visual that can be associated with the interaction.
- hota_mazi 8mo ago
  On Windows, I use AltDrag.
  - tricked 8mo ago
    Altdrag doesn't work with scaling and is missing some other nice to haves, The Altsnap fork of it fixes this. Its one of the first things i install.
- garciansmith 8mo ago
  Oh, I get having a visual way of doing it with just a mouse for sure. But for power users or even just-a-little-bit-of-knowledge users it's super quick and convenient. When I had to use Windows for work it drove me nuts that the option wasn't there (ended up finding AltDrag thankfully).
- gf000 8mo ago
  It's not like Apple would frown about the idea of an action having "no intuitive visual associated with it". On iOS, you can scroll to the top by pressing on the status bar as one example.
  - throwaway290 8mo ago
    Unless your status bar is on the bottom. Then scrolling up is really hit or miss
    - isametry 8mo ago
      The status bar – as in: the area where the clock, battery and signal strength are shown – is absolutely always at the top of the screen on iOS.
      - throwaway290 8mo ago
        I mean browser status bar (address bar, load progress etc.) and also you're wrong at least on new phones. If you tap the island and if there's any activity there, it doesn't scroll up it switches to activity app. You need to hit the top edge of the screen not the island. And that is hit or miss, because 30% you hit the island and often there's activity there. It was better before when it was not an island and activity was rare, only when you're navigating or on a call. Now every app and it's dog has a live activity in island.
mmis1000 8mo ago
windows does support [win] + [arrow key] though
- nozzlegear 8mo ago
  Mac supports the win (Cmd) + arrow key thing too; figured I'd mention since the story is about macOS window management.

cosmic_cheese 8mo ago

Probably just simple resistance to use of modifier keys in non-technical users, at least on the Windows side. A lot of users never touch a modifier except for Ctrl for copy/paste and maybe Windows for start menu search. On the Mac side where key combos and modifier use is more widespread among users, it’s probably because there’s no intuitive visual that can be associated with the interaction.

hota_mazi 8mo ago
On Windows, I use AltDrag.
- tricked 8mo ago
  Altdrag doesn't work with scaling and is missing some other nice to haves, The Altsnap fork of it fixes this. Its one of the first things i install.
garciansmith 8mo ago
Oh, I get having a visual way of doing it with just a mouse for sure. But for power users or even just-a-little-bit-of-knowledge users it's super quick and convenient. When I had to use Windows for work it drove me nuts that the option wasn't there (ended up finding AltDrag thankfully).
gf000 8mo ago
It's not like Apple would frown about the idea of an action having "no intuitive visual associated with it". On iOS, you can scroll to the top by pressing on the status bar as one example.
- throwaway290 8mo ago
  Unless your status bar is on the bottom. Then scrolling up is really hit or miss
  - isametry 8mo ago
    The status bar – as in: the area where the clock, battery and signal strength are shown – is absolutely always at the top of the screen on iOS.
    - throwaway290 8mo ago
      I mean browser status bar (address bar, load progress etc.) and also you're wrong at least on new phones. If you tap the island and if there's any activity there, it doesn't scroll up it switches to activity app. You need to hit the top edge of the screen not the island. And that is hit or miss, because 30% you hit the island and often there's activity there. It was better before when it was not an island and activity was rare, only when you're navigating or on a call. Now every app and it's dog has a live activity in island.

mmis1000 8mo ago

windows does support [win] + [arrow key] though

nozzlegear 8mo ago
Mac supports the win (Cmd) + arrow key thing too; figured I'd mention since the story is about macOS window management.