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Switched to KDE Plasma last month and very pleased I can have square-corner windows again.

by accrual 8mo ago

dgxyz 8mo ago
Corners are great aren't they! :)
krisknez 8mo ago
I had a hard time with Gnome but now I got used to it and it's amazing for me. I just can't believe they still haven't implemented scrolling speed setting...
- jeroenhd 8mo ago
  Gnome had a scroll speed setting but it broke and disappeared somewhere around the switch to Wayland without getting replaced. Gnome says libinput should deal with scroll speed. Libinput says GTK+ should deal with it. Patches have been lying around for both but neither has gained any traction. I like Gnome's DE in general but this issue showcases the rough edges of open source collaboration the Gnome project is infamous for. Even KWin's (original?) implementation of the feature wasn't great and caused issues with applications, apparently: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4672#note_2164907 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4672#not... Broken as though it might be, at least they're trying something, which I appreciate more as an end user than the complete lack of scroll settings.
EnPissant 8mo ago
KDE plasma is the best DE that exists right now (once you configure it to mimic gnome 2).
- deleted 8mo ago
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- shiroiuma 8mo ago
  Gnome 1 had the best design of all the Gnome versions.
- 1718627440 8mo ago
  > once you configure it to mimic gnome 2 Why is it better than Gnome 2 then? This is what I prefer (it's called Mate now).
  - EnPissant 8mo ago
    I was a Mate user for ages. It's great. Unfortunately, the lack of development is starting to show. For example, no fractional scaling for 4k monitors. I've configured KDE Plasma to look almost identical to Mate (the defaults are similar to Windows, nice, but I prefer the Mate layout): - top panel / bottom panel - desktop switcher bottom right - task bar on bottom - desktop button bottom left - clock top right - app indicators top right - app icon launchers on top bar - app menu top left It's not just layout, either. Gnome can be configured to do much of this, but it just feels terrible. Task bars can't be dragged to re-order. Desktop switchers just have numbers instead of contents. Animations are slow and annoying. Etc. Etc.
    - 1718627440 8mo ago
      > For example, no fractional scaling for 4k monitors. I don't have a 4K monitor, but what does `xrandr --output HDMI1 --scale 0.8x0.8` do? I have a 1024x768 monitor and do to all the useless whitespace in modern programs, I scale into the opposite direction. But I agree Gnome lost the plot completely, and sadly Gtk too. Which is a pity, because I prefer GTK+ to Qt, but they deprecated so much useful Widgets and the alternative given is 'just don't do that'.
      - EnPissant 8mo ago
        You can use xrandr to scale the desktop, but it's not the same thing. You can render at 2x in Mate, and then scale it down slightly (ie 1.25x1.25) with xrandr, but taking a large image and scaling it down using a cubic filter won't look as sharp as real fractional scaling. The command you gave is upscaling, which will be worse than 2x + downscaling. Real fractional scaling scales the sizes of elements before rendering. This results in the sharpest image and there is no resizing/filtering in the loop.

Switched to KDE Plasma last month and very pleased I can have square-corner windows again.

by accrual 8mo ago

Switched to KDE Plasma last month and very pleased I can have square-corner windows again.

dgxyz 8mo ago

Corners are great aren't they! :)

krisknez 8mo ago

I had a hard time with Gnome but now I got used to it and it's amazing for me. I just can't believe they still haven't implemented scrolling speed setting...

jeroenhd 8mo ago
Gnome had a scroll speed setting but it broke and disappeared somewhere around the switch to Wayland without getting replaced. Gnome says libinput should deal with scroll speed. Libinput says GTK+ should deal with it. Patches have been lying around for both but neither has gained any traction. I like Gnome's DE in general but this issue showcases the rough edges of open source collaboration the Gnome project is infamous for. Even KWin's (original?) implementation of the feature wasn't great and caused issues with applications, apparently: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4672#note_2164907 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4672#not... Broken as though it might be, at least they're trying something, which I appreciate more as an end user than the complete lack of scroll settings.

EnPissant 8mo ago

KDE plasma is the best DE that exists right now (once you configure it to mimic gnome 2).

deleted 8mo ago
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shiroiuma 8mo ago
Gnome 1 had the best design of all the Gnome versions.
1718627440 8mo ago
> once you configure it to mimic gnome 2 Why is it better than Gnome 2 then? This is what I prefer (it's called Mate now).
- EnPissant 8mo ago
  I was a Mate user for ages. It's great. Unfortunately, the lack of development is starting to show. For example, no fractional scaling for 4k monitors. I've configured KDE Plasma to look almost identical to Mate (the defaults are similar to Windows, nice, but I prefer the Mate layout): - top panel / bottom panel - desktop switcher bottom right - task bar on bottom - desktop button bottom left - clock top right - app indicators top right - app icon launchers on top bar - app menu top left It's not just layout, either. Gnome can be configured to do much of this, but it just feels terrible. Task bars can't be dragged to re-order. Desktop switchers just have numbers instead of contents. Animations are slow and annoying. Etc. Etc.
  - 1718627440 8mo ago
    > For example, no fractional scaling for 4k monitors. I don't have a 4K monitor, but what does `xrandr --output HDMI1 --scale 0.8x0.8` do? I have a 1024x768 monitor and do to all the useless whitespace in modern programs, I scale into the opposite direction. But I agree Gnome lost the plot completely, and sadly Gtk too. Which is a pity, because I prefer GTK+ to Qt, but they deprecated so much useful Widgets and the alternative given is 'just don't do that'.
    - EnPissant 8mo ago
      You can use xrandr to scale the desktop, but it's not the same thing. You can render at 2x in Mate, and then scale it down slightly (ie 1.25x1.25) with xrandr, but taking a large image and scaling it down using a cubic filter won't look as sharp as real fractional scaling. The command you gave is upscaling, which will be worse than 2x + downscaling. Real fractional scaling scales the sizes of elements before rendering. This results in the sharpest image and there is no resizing/filtering in the loop.