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The Australian law doesn't care where servers are run. I don't know about others.

by stevage 8mo ago

Zak 8mo ago
People without a physical or legal presence in Australia likely don't care what the Australian law cares about.
- wolvoleo 8mo ago
  Yeah that's the thing. No matter what you do, it's bound to be illegal somewhere in the world. Be it North Korea or Iran or Australia. You simply can't follow everyone's laws because they are often contradictory.
  - Bender 8mo ago
    ISIS cuts off hands for watching porn. They will have to cut through my porn induced callused skin using hydraulics.
    - ImJamal 8mo ago
      This is a bad example since you can just not watch porn. You wouldn't be violating the law anywhere since no country mandates you watch porn.
- Namidairo 8mo ago
  It did however deliver the hilarious quote "The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia", in regards to end-to-end encrypted messaging.[1] It went down as well as about you would think it would. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/australian-pm-calls-end-end-encryption-ban-says-laws-mathematics-dont-apply-down https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/australian-pm-calls-en... (2017)
  - Zak 8mo ago
    In 1897, the Indiana general assembly passed a bill declaring the value of pi to be 3.2. The senate was wise enough to postpone it indefinitely.
    - vonunov 8mo ago
      Now I'm just burning to know how the debate about which way to round it went down
      - Zak 8mo ago
        It was a scheme to sell math textbooks involving a purported method for squaring the circle which depended on that incorrect value of pi. Squaring the circle had already been proven impossible, but that didn't stop them from trying. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-state-legislature-once-tried-to-legislate-the-value-of-pi/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-...
drnick1 8mo ago
I don't care about what Australia wants. If I ran a private Matrix instance (e.g. to chat with my gaming buddies) I wouldn't even agree to divulge who is registered on it.
- stevage 8mo ago
  I think for several reasons the law wouldn't apply to that anyway - pure messaging platforms are exempt.
muyuu 8mo ago
I've been threatened by the governments of Pakistan and Germany for stuff I've said pseudonymously on the Internet. As much as they may think everybody needs to care about their laws, I happen not to.

The Australian law doesn't care where servers are run. I don't know about others.

by stevage 8mo ago

The Australian law doesn't care where servers are run. I don't know about others.

Zak 8mo ago

People without a physical or legal presence in Australia likely don't care what the Australian law cares about.

wolvoleo 8mo ago
Yeah that's the thing. No matter what you do, it's bound to be illegal somewhere in the world. Be it North Korea or Iran or Australia. You simply can't follow everyone's laws because they are often contradictory.
- Bender 8mo ago
  ISIS cuts off hands for watching porn. They will have to cut through my porn induced callused skin using hydraulics.
  - ImJamal 8mo ago
    This is a bad example since you can just not watch porn. You wouldn't be violating the law anywhere since no country mandates you watch porn.
Namidairo 8mo ago
It did however deliver the hilarious quote "The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia", in regards to end-to-end encrypted messaging.[1] It went down as well as about you would think it would. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/australian-pm-calls-end-end-encryption-ban-says-laws-mathematics-dont-apply-down https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/07/australian-pm-calls-en... (2017)
- Zak 8mo ago
  In 1897, the Indiana general assembly passed a bill declaring the value of pi to be 3.2. The senate was wise enough to postpone it indefinitely.
  - vonunov 8mo ago
    Now I'm just burning to know how the debate about which way to round it went down
    - Zak 8mo ago
      It was a scheme to sell math textbooks involving a purported method for squaring the circle which depended on that incorrect value of pi. Squaring the circle had already been proven impossible, but that didn't stop them from trying. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-state-legislature-once-tried-to-legislate-the-value-of-pi/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/02/05/indianas-...

drnick1 8mo ago

I don't care about what Australia wants. If I ran a private Matrix instance (e.g. to chat with my gaming buddies) I wouldn't even agree to divulge who is registered on it.

stevage 8mo ago
I think for several reasons the law wouldn't apply to that anyway - pure messaging platforms are exempt.

muyuu 8mo ago

I've been threatened by the governments of Pakistan and Germany for stuff I've said pseudonymously on the Internet. As much as they may think everybody needs to care about their laws, I happen not to.