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Go for hit. eLance, ODesk, Freelancer, the list goes on and on. I want to read your story of how you hired a programmer for $5 and got something done. I will

by ohashi 14y ago

Go for hit. eLance, ODesk, Freelancer, the list goes on and on. I want to read your story of how you hired a programmer for $5 and got something done. I will even try it myself if I see a way for me to use the same strategy. You would be saving me a huge amount of money. Everything matters. Saying logos matter is matters is somewhat meaningless. The question is how much do they matter? How much do they matter at one specific moment in time? How much time can you afford to spend on the logo problem at a moment in time? I shared this story because I suspect there are a lot of people who would be willing to spend $30 to try getting a cheap logo for their startup/side project/whatever. I really don't think you should feel threatened by it if you're able to communicate what value you're adding to a company by applying your unique design skills.

realscreen 14y ago
When your industry experiences an explosion of second-rate product at third-world wages is that a threat? Not necessarily the end of your business/career if you can market your value-add but a threat none the less.
- mnicole 14y ago
  You just nailed what I tried writing in two paragraphs in two sentences.
- ohashi 14y ago
  As a developer, I think it's already happened as some degree. Do I feel threatened? Not in the slightest. Plenty of people hire developers on eLance et al at low rates. I've seen no impact on myself or my developer friends. Stand up at a tech meetup and say you're a developer looking for a job and see what happens. As an entrepreneur? I see a wave of arbitrage opportunities.
bennyg 14y ago
Meh, I was making the point to try and raise concern for the other side of the perceived "coin" of product creation, as it applies to software. I would never hire a programmer for $5 - I program everything myself, just like I design everything. It's fun and I'm actually committed to excellence in both domains of my product. No offense, but the logos you received aren't that great, and definitely on par with what I'd expect for paying $50 or less. All I'm saying is, that in your post you talk about how it is the one symbol that defines your brand, and I feel like the quality of logos people get on sites like that end up looking like Acme Corp. It's all plug and play with no feeling, or emotional investment into the product. Of course, some are good, but the logos need a kernel of an idea. Notice how pretty much everybody put the wifi signal. Of course they did, that's the first thing I would think of too - but good design goes further than that. It truly takes some deep thinking.

by ohashi 14y ago

realscreen 14y ago

When your industry experiences an explosion of second-rate product at third-world wages is that a threat? Not necessarily the end of your business/career if you can market your value-add but a threat none the less.

mnicole 14y ago
You just nailed what I tried writing in two paragraphs in two sentences.
ohashi 14y ago
As a developer, I think it's already happened as some degree. Do I feel threatened? Not in the slightest. Plenty of people hire developers on eLance et al at low rates. I've seen no impact on myself or my developer friends. Stand up at a tech meetup and say you're a developer looking for a job and see what happens. As an entrepreneur? I see a wave of arbitrage opportunities.

bennyg 14y ago

Meh, I was making the point to try and raise concern for the other side of the perceived "coin" of product creation, as it applies to software. I would never hire a programmer for $5 - I program everything myself, just like I design everything. It's fun and I'm actually committed to excellence in both domains of my product. No offense, but the logos you received aren't that great, and definitely on par with what I'd expect for paying $50 or less. All I'm saying is, that in your post you talk about how it is the one symbol that defines your brand, and I feel like the quality of logos people get on sites like that end up looking like Acme Corp. It's all plug and play with no feeling, or emotional investment into the product. Of course, some are good, but the logos need a kernel of an idea. Notice how pretty much everybody put the wifi signal. Of course they did, that's the first thing I would think of too - but good design goes further than that. It truly takes some deep thinking.