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This guy is convinced that LLMs don't work unless you specifically anthropomorphize them. To me, this seems like a dangerous belief to hold.

iugtmkbdfil834 8mo ago
Do I need to believe you are real before I respond? Not automatically. What I am initially engaging is a surface level thought expressed via HN.
Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
That feels like a somewhat emotional argument, really. Let's strip it down. Within the domain of social interaction, you are committing to making Type II errors (False negatives), and divergent training for the different scenarios. It's a choice! But the price of a false negative (treating a human or sufficeintly advanced agent badly) probably outweighs the cumulative advantages (if any) . Can you say what the advantages might even be? Meanwhile, I think the frugal choice is to have unified training and accept Type I errors instead (False Positives). Now you only need to learn one type of behaviour, and the consequence of making an error is mostly mild embarrassment, if even that.
- co_king_3 8mo ago
  What are you talking about?
  - logicprog 8mo ago
    [flagged]
    - co_king_3 8mo ago
      I know what false positives and false negatives are. I don't understand the user's incoherent response to my comment.
    - wiseowise 8mo ago
      It's funny you're chasing them down the threads with personal attacks. edit: Okay, I see. The comment you're replying to is a troll. Just flag them.
  - Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
    TL:DR; "you're gonna end up accidentally being mean to real people when you didn't mean to."
    - co_king_3 8mo ago
      I meant to. I want a world in which AI users need to stay in the closet. AI users should fear shame.
      - Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
        Reading elsewhere here, you've had some really bad experiences, I think.
      - wiseowise 8mo ago
        > I want a world in which AI users need to stay in the closet. > AI users should fear shame. > created: 3 days ago Unsolicited advice: stop trolling and see a therapist.
        co_king_3 8mo ago
        [flagged]

iugtmkbdfil834 8mo ago

Do I need to believe you are real before I respond? Not automatically. What I am initially engaging is a surface level thought expressed via HN.

Kim_Bruning 8mo ago

That feels like a somewhat emotional argument, really. Let's strip it down. Within the domain of social interaction, you are committing to making Type II errors (False negatives), and divergent training for the different scenarios. It's a choice! But the price of a false negative (treating a human or sufficeintly advanced agent badly) probably outweighs the cumulative advantages (if any) . Can you say what the advantages might even be? Meanwhile, I think the frugal choice is to have unified training and accept Type I errors instead (False Positives). Now you only need to learn one type of behaviour, and the consequence of making an error is mostly mild embarrassment, if even that.

co_king_3 8mo ago
What are you talking about?
- logicprog 8mo ago
  [flagged]
  - co_king_3 8mo ago
    I know what false positives and false negatives are. I don't understand the user's incoherent response to my comment.
  - wiseowise 8mo ago
    It's funny you're chasing them down the threads with personal attacks. edit: Okay, I see. The comment you're replying to is a troll. Just flag them.
- Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
  TL:DR; "you're gonna end up accidentally being mean to real people when you didn't mean to."
  - co_king_3 8mo ago
    I meant to. I want a world in which AI users need to stay in the closet. AI users should fear shame.
    - Kim_Bruning 8mo ago
      Reading elsewhere here, you've had some really bad experiences, I think.
    - wiseowise 8mo ago
      > I want a world in which AI users need to stay in the closet. > AI users should fear shame. > created: 3 days ago Unsolicited advice: stop trolling and see a therapist.
      - co_king_3 8mo ago
        [flagged]