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Uh, I think Apple had proven themselves many times that they're the one to bring something new and advanced. It started with MacBooks, then iPhones, a digital a

Uh, I think Apple had proven themselves many times that they're the one to bring something new and advanced. It started with MacBooks, then iPhones, a digital assistant, TouchID, Airpods, FaceID, fan-less MacBooks and probably more stuff. Is it not enough?

ragazzina 8mo ago
You have only listed hardware, no software (I don't count "A digital assistant" because I don't know what it refers to).
- worldsavior 8mo ago
  > I don't count "A digital assistant" because I don't know what it refers to You haven't heard of Siri? I don't see the OP stating he only talked about software, and what I mentioned also software in it.
  - ragazzina 8mo ago
    I have heard of Siri, I would never expect anyone to mention Siri while enumerating "new and advanced" things Apple developed. OP said whatever the next shift in technology, Apple will be left behind. You said Apple actually developed new advanced products, but only mentioned hardware examples. If the new big shift in technology is in software (such as AI), we have no reason to predict Apple will fare well there.
    - worldsavior 8mo ago
      It was new and advanced back then. AI is not only software but also hardware. Apple were the first to develop a (good) chip specifically for AI computation (ANE), and their MacBooks are very good for running AI models locally. Apple are not like Google or Facebook (they're mainly software, and Apple are titled more towards hardware), their vision isn't the same as theirs, but their vision will hold for a very long time.
      - dingaling 8mo ago
        > It was new and advanced back then. Siri was bought for $200 million in 2010 from Stanford Research Institute ( hence the name ). It wasn't developed at Apple.
- eitally 8mo ago
  TBH, though, if all they ever do is provide hardware that runs software designed just for that hardware ecosystem, consistently, securely and with decent UX, I'll be happy. That's better than any other consumer computing HW vendor has proven to be able to do.

ragazzina 8mo ago

You have only listed hardware, no software (I don't count "A digital assistant" because I don't know what it refers to).

worldsavior 8mo ago
> I don't count "A digital assistant" because I don't know what it refers to You haven't heard of Siri? I don't see the OP stating he only talked about software, and what I mentioned also software in it.
- ragazzina 8mo ago
  I have heard of Siri, I would never expect anyone to mention Siri while enumerating "new and advanced" things Apple developed. OP said whatever the next shift in technology, Apple will be left behind. You said Apple actually developed new advanced products, but only mentioned hardware examples. If the new big shift in technology is in software (such as AI), we have no reason to predict Apple will fare well there.
  - worldsavior 8mo ago
    It was new and advanced back then. AI is not only software but also hardware. Apple were the first to develop a (good) chip specifically for AI computation (ANE), and their MacBooks are very good for running AI models locally. Apple are not like Google or Facebook (they're mainly software, and Apple are titled more towards hardware), their vision isn't the same as theirs, but their vision will hold for a very long time.
    - dingaling 8mo ago
      > It was new and advanced back then. Siri was bought for $200 million in 2010 from Stanford Research Institute ( hence the name ). It wasn't developed at Apple.
eitally 8mo ago
TBH, though, if all they ever do is provide hardware that runs software designed just for that hardware ecosystem, consistently, securely and with decent UX, I'll be happy. That's better than any other consumer computing HW vendor has proven to be able to do.