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That's a tough one, but considering it's only the 7th major version to come out in 23 years, I'd say that's a fairly safe place to demarcate backwards compatibi

That's a tough one, but considering it's only the 7th major version to come out in 23 years, I'd say that's a fairly safe place to demarcate backwards compatibility, considering that it's (probably) a fairly major UI overhaul on both iOS and Mac. Despite the poor quality of the OSes themselves, it's just a small studio, gotta pick your battles carefully. You can still use the version you're using, and if you ever upgrade to the new OS you can get the new version, seems reasonable enough to me

eviks 8mo ago
> gotta pick your battles carefully Ok, and how is wasting time making the design worse to follow the OS instead of spending that time implementing missing features a carefully picked battle? I thought the philosophy was prioritizing quality > You can still use the version you're using Which would be missing bug fixes and those slow features the may be added next year
- sherry-sherry 8mo ago
  The app has always followed the masOS design language, because the app is built using the native macOS tools. It makes sense for it to match the OS it's on, apps built with stand UI components migrated to 'Liquid glass' much easier. The app is open source (https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire), feel free to back-port any features or bug-fixes you would like to spend your time on.
  - eviks 8mo ago
    It doesn't make sense because the previous version also matches the OS it's on, liquid glass degradation isn't mandatory and "much easier" is still harder than doing the better nothing. Your suggestion is just as senseless: among the many things wrong with such a "write the app yourself" approach, you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down
    - sherry-sherry 8mo ago
      It makes sense. Like you said, previous versions used the macOS design language at the time, and the current version does the same. The developer has chosen to no longer support older versions of macOS, they aren't required to. The old app still works, and anyone else can work on it if they want. > you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down Yes you can. You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15.
      - eviks 8mo ago
        > You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15. You forgot to address the point, which was about distribution, not creation The previous paragraph is similarly irrelevant, for example, "aren't required to" - who said anything about requirements??
        jamespo 8mo ago
        We get it, you don't like liquid glass, neither do I. But the source is available and there are alternatives to both MacOS and netnewswire.
        eviks 8mo ago
        No, you don't get it, otherwise you wouldn't repeat/add irrelevant points to a thread filled with them
        jamespo 8mo ago
        Sure, keep whining pointlessly then.
        sherry-sherry 8mo ago
        You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed. You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work, I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.

eviks 8mo ago

> gotta pick your battles carefully Ok, and how is wasting time making the design worse to follow the OS instead of spending that time implementing missing features a carefully picked battle? I thought the philosophy was prioritizing quality > You can still use the version you're using Which would be missing bug fixes and those slow features the may be added next year

sherry-sherry 8mo ago
The app has always followed the masOS design language, because the app is built using the native macOS tools. It makes sense for it to match the OS it's on, apps built with stand UI components migrated to 'Liquid glass' much easier. The app is open source (https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire), feel free to back-port any features or bug-fixes you would like to spend your time on.
- eviks 8mo ago
  It doesn't make sense because the previous version also matches the OS it's on, liquid glass degradation isn't mandatory and "much easier" is still harder than doing the better nothing. Your suggestion is just as senseless: among the many things wrong with such a "write the app yourself" approach, you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down
  - sherry-sherry 8mo ago
    It makes sense. Like you said, previous versions used the macOS design language at the time, and the current version does the same. The developer has chosen to no longer support older versions of macOS, they aren't required to. The old app still works, and anyone else can work on it if they want. > you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down Yes you can. You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15.
    - eviks 8mo ago
      > You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15. You forgot to address the point, which was about distribution, not creation The previous paragraph is similarly irrelevant, for example, "aren't required to" - who said anything about requirements??
      - jamespo 8mo ago
        We get it, you don't like liquid glass, neither do I. But the source is available and there are alternatives to both MacOS and netnewswire.
        eviks 8mo ago
        No, you don't get it, otherwise you wouldn't repeat/add irrelevant points to a thread filled with them
        jamespo 8mo ago
        Sure, keep whining pointlessly then.
      - sherry-sherry 8mo ago
        You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed. You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work, I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.