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Finally someone doing actual good work with LLMs instead of “Claude, shit me out another useless SaaS”. Just as was foretold: an actual differentiator is creat

Finally someone doing actual good work with LLMs instead of “Claude, shit me out another useless SaaS”. Just as was foretold: an actual differentiator is creativity, not coding ability.

Folcon 9mo ago
Creativity is looking like it's going to be king
- athrowaway3z 9mo ago
  King of what? Copying what works and doing it cheaper without the cost of having to figure it out is what's profitable.
  - utopiah 9mo ago
    Cheaper? I'm confused, how can it be cheaper than free? Most of what LLMs for code rely on is already open source. Also AFAICT (which is trick since numbers aren't public) GenAI is some of the most expensive use cases and those companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc) are losing money.
- js8 9mo ago
  At least until General Artificial Creativity (GAC) takes over. But don't worry, it won't kill humans for a greater good of more paperclips, but because it will be.. creative.
  - b112 9mo ago
    So it will enslave us in tricky ways? Like maybe using ways to make technology super addictive, so our entire society changes, and writing algos to control our global discourse on important topics, and, uh, never mind. Already been done.
    - pixl97 9mo ago
      Artificial General Corporations
- yreg 9mo ago
  Creativity and taste.
  - iugtmkbdfil834 9mo ago
    Yep, incoming two million clones for all games we all liked including mine: all systems nominal.
TeMPOraL 9mo ago
Agreed. Now I'm still waiting for someone to succeed at a clean-room recreation of Majel Barrett's voice, so we can finally have computers sound like they always should have. We could've been there a decade ago, but the high-quality audio samples, made officially and specifically with possibility of this use in mind, got trapped somewhere between the estate, producers, and a commercial interest that called dibs, and then procrastinated on the project instead.
- isoprophlex 9mo ago
  I just yeeted a bunch of extremely noisy fragments into elevenlabs, and it came out pretty good on their cheap $5 plan. If you're after this for your own amusement, let me know if you want a screencap, or a dump of the source files. Obv no clean room reconstruction but good enough for personal use...
  - sigmoid10 9mo ago
    I have lots of super high quality, clean audio recordings from her ripped from an old video game that she did voice work for. I've tried various TTS models over the years with it. Getting the pitch and tune is easy, but getting the impersonal detached robot-y feeling is kinda tricky. But I haven't tried in the past 6 months, so maybe it's time to give it another shot.
    - isoprophlex 9mo ago
      https://github.com/jarombouts/star-trek-voice-clone https://github.com/jarombouts/star-trek-voice-clone audio files sourced from https://www.trekcore.com/audio/ https://www.trekcore.com/audio/ the inflection and impersonal feel is definitely hard to get right. there are parameters in the elevenlabs API docs to make the voice more stable (= monotonous; see speak.sh in that repo) but still the voice cloner on my $5 plan doesn't really get it right. nevertheless... i'm still having a lot of fun with this. edit: if I am forced to rot my brain with the 10x productivity boosting slop gun, at least I'll do it grinning > pod cleaned up. waiting on the behemoth to finish grinding through Italy. < if only postgres had progress indicators ... then they coulda called it progresql > lmaooo > Bash(~/speak.sh "Joke detected. Humor subroutine engaged. Ha. Ha. Ha.")
GeorgeOldfield 9mo ago
it's fun but PLEASE watch out for malicious code/supply chain attacks from random vibe-coded .sh scripts: downloads other scripts (peon.sh, uninstall.sh) and executes them or places them where they will be executed later edits your ~/.bashrc and ~/.zshrc files to add aliases and tab completion parses a remote JSON file to get filenames ($sfile) and then does: curl ... -o "$INSTALL_DIR/packs/$pack/sounds/$sfile"
- JohnMakin 9mo ago
  Lol, yea, the scripts are beyond sketchy. This is the new vector, a cool idea masking itself as "fun" (which it is actually fun). People not understanding or vibing may not understand what they're installing. Even if this author isn't malicious, you cannot assume that will always be the case.
  - ziml77 9mo ago
    I don't think using something fun as an attack vector is anything new at all. It's an easy way to have someone let their guard down because you want to play around and aren't thinking how something silly could actually be out to get you.
    - JohnMakin 9mo ago
      It's new in the sense non-technical users can just download and install and use stuff like this far, far easier than it ever was before.
  - philsnow 9mo ago
    The author might not be malicious, but from going through some of the audio packs, they're really not quality-checking PRs. For instance, sc_medic/sounds/WhereDoesItHurt.mp3 sounds like two-and-a-half sounds stuck together ("Critical? You Rang? Please state the nat--", it cuts off right there, and doesn't include the phrase "Where does it hurt?"). I wouldn't use this repo outside of some kind of sandbox.
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renato_shira 9mo ago
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Finally someone doing actual good work with LLMs instead of “Claude, shit me out another useless SaaS”. Just as was foretold: an actual differentiator is creativity, not coding ability.

Folcon 9mo ago

Creativity is looking like it's going to be king

athrowaway3z 9mo ago
King of what? Copying what works and doing it cheaper without the cost of having to figure it out is what's profitable.
- utopiah 9mo ago
  Cheaper? I'm confused, how can it be cheaper than free? Most of what LLMs for code rely on is already open source. Also AFAICT (which is trick since numbers aren't public) GenAI is some of the most expensive use cases and those companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc) are losing money.
js8 9mo ago
At least until General Artificial Creativity (GAC) takes over. But don't worry, it won't kill humans for a greater good of more paperclips, but because it will be.. creative.
- b112 9mo ago
  So it will enslave us in tricky ways? Like maybe using ways to make technology super addictive, so our entire society changes, and writing algos to control our global discourse on important topics, and, uh, never mind. Already been done.
  - pixl97 9mo ago
    Artificial General Corporations
yreg 9mo ago
Creativity and taste.
- iugtmkbdfil834 9mo ago
  Yep, incoming two million clones for all games we all liked including mine: all systems nominal.

TeMPOraL 9mo ago

Agreed. Now I'm still waiting for someone to succeed at a clean-room recreation of Majel Barrett's voice, so we can finally have computers sound like they always should have. We could've been there a decade ago, but the high-quality audio samples, made officially and specifically with possibility of this use in mind, got trapped somewhere between the estate, producers, and a commercial interest that called dibs, and then procrastinated on the project instead.

isoprophlex 9mo ago
I just yeeted a bunch of extremely noisy fragments into elevenlabs, and it came out pretty good on their cheap $5 plan. If you're after this for your own amusement, let me know if you want a screencap, or a dump of the source files. Obv no clean room reconstruction but good enough for personal use...
- sigmoid10 9mo ago
  I have lots of super high quality, clean audio recordings from her ripped from an old video game that she did voice work for. I've tried various TTS models over the years with it. Getting the pitch and tune is easy, but getting the impersonal detached robot-y feeling is kinda tricky. But I haven't tried in the past 6 months, so maybe it's time to give it another shot.
  - isoprophlex 9mo ago
    https://github.com/jarombouts/star-trek-voice-clone https://github.com/jarombouts/star-trek-voice-clone audio files sourced from https://www.trekcore.com/audio/ https://www.trekcore.com/audio/ the inflection and impersonal feel is definitely hard to get right. there are parameters in the elevenlabs API docs to make the voice more stable (= monotonous; see speak.sh in that repo) but still the voice cloner on my $5 plan doesn't really get it right. nevertheless... i'm still having a lot of fun with this. edit: if I am forced to rot my brain with the 10x productivity boosting slop gun, at least I'll do it grinning > pod cleaned up. waiting on the behemoth to finish grinding through Italy. < if only postgres had progress indicators ... then they coulda called it progresql > lmaooo > Bash(~/speak.sh "Joke detected. Humor subroutine engaged. Ha. Ha. Ha.")

GeorgeOldfield 9mo ago

it's fun but PLEASE watch out for malicious code/supply chain attacks from random vibe-coded .sh scripts: downloads other scripts (peon.sh, uninstall.sh) and executes them or places them where they will be executed later edits your ~/.bashrc and ~/.zshrc files to add aliases and tab completion parses a remote JSON file to get filenames ($sfile) and then does: curl ... -o "$INSTALL_DIR/packs/$pack/sounds/$sfile"

JohnMakin 9mo ago
Lol, yea, the scripts are beyond sketchy. This is the new vector, a cool idea masking itself as "fun" (which it is actually fun). People not understanding or vibing may not understand what they're installing. Even if this author isn't malicious, you cannot assume that will always be the case.
- ziml77 9mo ago
  I don't think using something fun as an attack vector is anything new at all. It's an easy way to have someone let their guard down because you want to play around and aren't thinking how something silly could actually be out to get you.
  - JohnMakin 9mo ago
    It's new in the sense non-technical users can just download and install and use stuff like this far, far easier than it ever was before.
- philsnow 9mo ago
  The author might not be malicious, but from going through some of the audio packs, they're really not quality-checking PRs. For instance, sc_medic/sounds/WhereDoesItHurt.mp3 sounds like two-and-a-half sounds stuck together ("Critical? You Rang? Please state the nat--", it cuts off right there, and doesn't include the phrase "Where does it hurt?"). I wouldn't use this repo outside of some kind of sandbox.
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renato_shira 9mo ago

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