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My wife calls me, panicked

21 points by latchkey 8mo ago

andsoitis 8mo ago
> Prediction: In less than 90 days, all channels that we thought were safe from spam & automation will be so flooded that they will no longer be usable in any functional sense: iMessage, phone calls, Gmail. This claim seems way overblown.
- latchkey 8mo ago
  Maybe, but he also drinks from the firehose.
- peddling-brink 8mo ago
  This was a minor sub-plot to Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson. Excellent book. The defense must scale with the offense. We’ll have agents to cut through the noise. And then, maybe someone can finally design the Torment Nexus..
  - amazingman 8mo ago
    My favorite NS in a long time. I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to realize who "Elmo" is meant to reference ...
- eddyg 8mo ago
  Have you tried ElevenLabs latest "expressive mode" models? ("Von Fusion" is particularly fun!) Models like this (well, not Von Fusion, but some of the others...) in the hands of scammers will be able to fool a lot of people. https://elevenlabs.io/agents/expressive-mode https://elevenlabs.io/agents/expressive-mode
zahlman 8mo ago
Even the advisories about how to deal with AI-powered threats are AI-written now....
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wiredpancake 8mo ago
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RealityVoid 8mo ago
I seriously doubt this happened.
- distances 8mo ago
  It was clearly just an imagined scenario to illustrate the author's point.
  - RealityVoid 8mo ago
    Ok... Maybe I missed the ques for that, but if that's the case, It's really not obvious from the post. Not to mention the whole thing sounds completely unhinged.
ddtaylor 8mo ago
Now do the same with your grandma, Grandpa, aunt, sister, etc. Seems to scale poorly =(
BugsJustFindMe 8mo ago
"our son" would be a tell. Who talks like that about their child to their spouse? Also emergency rooms in the US have an obligation to treat to stabilization in emergency situations regardless of ability to pay, so if they're demanding payment then it's not actually an emergency.
- watwut 8mo ago
  Parents definition of emergency extends goes beyond "direct threat to life right now".
Lerc 8mo ago
This reads like it has been specifically worded to read like it is a claim of something that happened, but when disproven can be pointed to to say the use of the present tense clearly shows that it is describing a hypothetical situation.
- NedF 8mo ago
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- znpy 8mo ago
  Variations of this already happened, however: https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/how-ferrari-hit-the-brakes-on-a-deepfake-ceo/ https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/how-ferrari-hit-the-brak...
fancy_pantser 8mo ago
...or just ask something only they would know? takes no coordination, works even in a stressful situation, and you can always follow up with more
- xorvoid 8mo ago
  This was my thought as well. We have a lot of shared knowledge and memories with details that are definitely not shared in any online artifact. Those would be very hard to spoof for any casual attack. We'd have to be talking state level attacks...

21 points by latchkey 8mo ago

> Prediction: In less than 90 days, all channels that we thought were safe from spam & automation will be so flooded that they will no longer be usable in any functional sense: iMessage, phone calls, Gmail. This claim seems way overblown.

latchkey 8mo ago
Maybe, but he also drinks from the firehose.
peddling-brink 8mo ago
This was a minor sub-plot to Fall; or, Dodge in Hell by Neal Stephenson. Excellent book. The defense must scale with the offense. We’ll have agents to cut through the noise. And then, maybe someone can finally design the Torment Nexus..
- amazingman 8mo ago
  My favorite NS in a long time. I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to realize who "Elmo" is meant to reference ...
eddyg 8mo ago
Have you tried ElevenLabs latest "expressive mode" models? ("Von Fusion" is particularly fun!) Models like this (well, not Von Fusion, but some of the others...) in the hands of scammers will be able to fool a lot of people. https://elevenlabs.io/agents/expressive-mode https://elevenlabs.io/agents/expressive-mode

zahlman 8mo ago

Even the advisories about how to deal with AI-powered threats are AI-written now....

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wiredpancake 8mo ago

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RealityVoid 8mo ago

I seriously doubt this happened.

distances 8mo ago
It was clearly just an imagined scenario to illustrate the author's point.
- RealityVoid 8mo ago
  Ok... Maybe I missed the ques for that, but if that's the case, It's really not obvious from the post. Not to mention the whole thing sounds completely unhinged.

ddtaylor 8mo ago

Now do the same with your grandma, Grandpa, aunt, sister, etc. Seems to scale poorly =(

BugsJustFindMe 8mo ago

"our son" would be a tell. Who talks like that about their child to their spouse? Also emergency rooms in the US have an obligation to treat to stabilization in emergency situations regardless of ability to pay, so if they're demanding payment then it's not actually an emergency.

watwut 8mo ago
Parents definition of emergency extends goes beyond "direct threat to life right now".

Lerc 8mo ago

This reads like it has been specifically worded to read like it is a claim of something that happened, but when disproven can be pointed to to say the use of the present tense clearly shows that it is describing a hypothetical situation.

NedF 8mo ago
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znpy 8mo ago
Variations of this already happened, however: https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/how-ferrari-hit-the-brakes-on-a-deepfake-ceo/ https://sloanreview.mit.edu/article/how-ferrari-hit-the-brak...

fancy_pantser 8mo ago

...or just ask something only they would know? takes no coordination, works even in a stressful situation, and you can always follow up with more

xorvoid 8mo ago
This was my thought as well. We have a lot of shared knowledge and memories with details that are definitely not shared in any online artifact. Those would be very hard to spoof for any casual attack. We'd have to be talking state level attacks...