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I hate it when people mispronounce/misspell Yazhi. It's pronounced using the the most unique feature of the language - "zh" instead of "L" just like Tamil itsel

by neya 8mo ago

I hate it when people mispronounce/misspell Yazhi. It's pronounced using the the most unique feature of the language - "zh" instead of "L" just like Tamil itself (it's actually Thamizh). The original wikipedia page: https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B3%E0...

shash 8mo ago
I'm coming around to the idea that we _should_ really be using "l" or maybe "r" instead of "zh" for the ழ. At least it's closer in pronunciation and there's a chance someone can work their way to it. Zh is like "we don't have an exact match so we'll repurpose a letter we don't use". It has no phonetic relevance.
- kirubakaran 8mo ago
  Tamil is my mother tongue and I agree 100%. And like insisting that sentences shouldn't end with a preposition, or "you should say GNU/Linux, not Linux", it's no way to make friends and influence people. Whenever someone says "actually", it's hard not to think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA
  - neya 8mo ago
    Sure, referencing a meme in a language relate discourse, should make people take you seriously /s >About > I pronounce my name as kroo-PAH-krun. In IPA it’s /kruːˈpɑːkrən/ Rules for thee, but not for me :))))
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    - kirubakaran 8mo ago
      Yeah I shouldn't have posted The Office meme. My bad. Unfortunately it's too late to edit my original comment.
      - neya 8mo ago
        All good :)
srean 8mo ago
Yes. Very few non-Dravidian languages spoken in India, have that specific sound. The only exception I can think of is Marathi. The 'el' in 'sakal' is roughly the same.
- neya 8mo ago
  Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing!
  - srean 8mo ago
    Marathi also has the ch vs ts thing. Similar issues turns up in transliterating Cyrillic -- Chebyshev vs Tschebyshev.
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- shash 8mo ago
  Technically it’s a retroflex approximant [1] and is found in many places (often not as a separate character or phoneme). But I think we’ve hijacked a cultural thread with enough phonetics for now! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_approximant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_approximant
zanthum 8mo ago
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by neya 8mo ago

shash 8mo ago

I'm coming around to the idea that we _should_ really be using "l" or maybe "r" instead of "zh" for the ழ. At least it's closer in pronunciation and there's a chance someone can work their way to it. Zh is like "we don't have an exact match so we'll repurpose a letter we don't use". It has no phonetic relevance.

kirubakaran 8mo ago
Tamil is my mother tongue and I agree 100%. And like insisting that sentences shouldn't end with a preposition, or "you should say GNU/Linux, not Linux", it's no way to make friends and influence people. Whenever someone says "actually", it's hard not to think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGvw-E4OtOA
- neya 8mo ago
  Sure, referencing a meme in a language relate discourse, should make people take you seriously /s >About > I pronounce my name as kroo-PAH-krun. In IPA it’s /kruːˈpɑːkrən/ Rules for thee, but not for me :))))
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  - kirubakaran 8mo ago
    Yeah I shouldn't have posted The Office meme. My bad. Unfortunately it's too late to edit my original comment.
    - neya 8mo ago
      All good :)

srean 8mo ago

Yes. Very few non-Dravidian languages spoken in India, have that specific sound. The only exception I can think of is Marathi. The 'el' in 'sakal' is roughly the same.

neya 8mo ago
Wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing!
- srean 8mo ago
  Marathi also has the ch vs ts thing. Similar issues turns up in transliterating Cyrillic -- Chebyshev vs Tschebyshev.
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shash 8mo ago
Technically it’s a retroflex approximant [1] and is found in many places (often not as a separate character or phoneme). But I think we’ve hijacked a cultural thread with enough phonetics for now! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_approximant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_approximant

zanthum 8mo ago

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