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Ok, let me guess, without looking at the article .... is it a "pilot" that's rolled out to a small number of people, for a limited period of time, and its succe

Ok, let me guess, without looking at the article .... is it a "pilot" that's rolled out to a small number of people, for a limited period of time, and its success is judged by surveying those people on whether they were happy to get free money? I bet it was.

tgrowazay 8mo ago
Close > Ireland rolled out a permanent basic income scheme for the arts on Tuesday, pledging to pay 2,000 creative workers 325 euros ($387) per week following a trial that participants said eased financial strain and allowed them to spend more time on projects. > The randomly selected applicants will receive the payments for three years, after which they would not be eligible for the next three-year cycle. O'Donovan said he would like to increase the number of recipients over time. > Over 8,000 applicants applied for the 2,000 places in the pilot scheme. > A report on the trial found it lowered the likelihood of artists experiencing enforced deprivation, and reduced their levels of anxiety and reliance on supplementary income.
themafia 8mo ago
> It also recouped more than the trial's net cost of 72 million euros ($86 million) through [...] and reduced reliance on other social welfare payments, Which sounds quite a bit like "we spent more on one type of welfare so we ended up spending less on a different type of welfare." Which, okay, good, but I don't think you can say you "recouped" anything.
- Schmerika 8mo ago
  If you want to criticize the study, it would be best to actually read the method rather than make assumptions.
  - themafia 8mo ago
    Would you happen to have a link to that?
    - ergocoder 8mo ago
      No
    - Schmerika 8mo ago
      I do. Do you have the money to pay me to research it for you? I shouldn't hurt my potential income like this, but the link is even mentioned elsewhere itt.
      - themafia 8mo ago
        If you want to criticize my post, it would be best to actually provide the data you're being snarky about. You didn't need any money to start that did you? Why suddenly do you need it now? What a crappy and bad faith attitude.
        Schmerika 8mo ago
        > it would be best to actually provide the data you're being snarky about. You mean the study you're complaining about without having read? ... The one that's not even a Google search away, because it's literally linked on the page you're already on? Not being snarky, just really surprised at the expectation of being spoonfed data that's already right in front of you, and the apparent willingness to complain about things that you haven't even glanced at. Many people worked hard to do this study. I believe if you want to complain about their methodology then you should probably take the time to actually look at what it was first. Is that snark? Is it snark to ask for payment when people ask you to do research (however basic) for them?

tgrowazay 8mo ago

Close > Ireland rolled out a permanent basic income scheme for the arts on Tuesday, pledging to pay 2,000 creative workers 325 euros ($387) per week following a trial that participants said eased financial strain and allowed them to spend more time on projects. > The randomly selected applicants will receive the payments for three years, after which they would not be eligible for the next three-year cycle. O'Donovan said he would like to increase the number of recipients over time. > Over 8,000 applicants applied for the 2,000 places in the pilot scheme. > A report on the trial found it lowered the likelihood of artists experiencing enforced deprivation, and reduced their levels of anxiety and reliance on supplementary income.

themafia 8mo ago

> It also recouped more than the trial's net cost of 72 million euros ($86 million) through [...] and reduced reliance on other social welfare payments, Which sounds quite a bit like "we spent more on one type of welfare so we ended up spending less on a different type of welfare." Which, okay, good, but I don't think you can say you "recouped" anything.

Schmerika 8mo ago
If you want to criticize the study, it would be best to actually read the method rather than make assumptions.
- themafia 8mo ago
  Would you happen to have a link to that?
  - ergocoder 8mo ago
    No
  - Schmerika 8mo ago
    I do. Do you have the money to pay me to research it for you? I shouldn't hurt my potential income like this, but the link is even mentioned elsewhere itt.
    - themafia 8mo ago
      If you want to criticize my post, it would be best to actually provide the data you're being snarky about. You didn't need any money to start that did you? Why suddenly do you need it now? What a crappy and bad faith attitude.
      - Schmerika 8mo ago
        > it would be best to actually provide the data you're being snarky about. You mean the study you're complaining about without having read? ... The one that's not even a Google search away, because it's literally linked on the page you're already on? Not being snarky, just really surprised at the expectation of being spoonfed data that's already right in front of you, and the apparent willingness to complain about things that you haven't even glanced at. Many people worked hard to do this study. I believe if you want to complain about their methodology then you should probably take the time to actually look at what it was first. Is that snark? Is it snark to ask for payment when people ask you to do research (however basic) for them?