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And lose every user in the process

dark-star 9mo ago
I think you massively overestimate how many people actually care. My guess is that 95% or more of all Discord users do not care and simply upload their selfie or ID card and be done with it. I know I will (although they did say that they expect 80%+ to not require verification since they can somehow infer their age from other parameters)
- bee_rider 9mo ago
  Those 5% are the unusual sorts that separate Discord from Facebook.
- esseph 9mo ago
  > I know I will Are you a minority, LGBTQ+, etc or of a "different" political persuasion that might have any reason to be distrustful of the US government? If so, you probably wouldn't just "be done with it".
  - dark-star 9mo ago
    No, I'm not, and I also don't live under an opressive government that tracks those people down. I simply don't care if the us government or some random US company knows about what I play, eat, talk about or who I sleep with. And my guess is that outside the US LGBTQ+ and "different political view" bubble, most people also don't care. And that bubble makes up maybe 5% of Discord's user base
    - int_19h 9mo ago
      The real question is, how much of the "terminally online" population who is more likely to use paid Discord features?
- airstrike 9mo ago
  Remember digg? I've already cancelled my Nitro account. I'm quite active on a ~5k member programming server and we're giving Zulip another try. I think it's unlikely we'll stay on Discord. Obviously anecdotal, but eventually this adds up.
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  - lossyalgo 9mo ago
    Also cancelled my Nitro after 5 years. This whole thing being "for the safety of kids" is obviously a farce just to get more user data because Nitro users supposedly will have to do the ID check as well, but if you're paying with a CC/Paypal, you are obviously of sufficient age to not require an ID check.
jasonfarnon 9mo ago
Is there any data on what kind of hits to enrollment were taken by facebook, gmail etc when they added requirements like a phone #? Maybe it's buried in their sec filings.
jasonfarnon 9mo ago
Is there any data on what kind of hits to enrollment were taken by facebook, gmail etc when they added requirements like a phone #? Maybe it's buried in their sec filings. Anyway, this "cat and mouse" game is probably irrelevant. They're not looking for and don't need a perfect system. Bc 99% of the public couldn't care less about handing over their information.
- drnick1 9mo ago
  Google does not require a phone number. They may ask for one and tell you it's for your own good, but you can skip the request.

I think you massively overestimate how many people actually care. My guess is that 95% or more of all Discord users do not care and simply upload their selfie or ID card and be done with it. I know I will (although they did say that they expect 80%+ to not require verification since they can somehow infer their age from other parameters)

bee_rider 9mo ago
Those 5% are the unusual sorts that separate Discord from Facebook.
esseph 9mo ago
> I know I will Are you a minority, LGBTQ+, etc or of a "different" political persuasion that might have any reason to be distrustful of the US government? If so, you probably wouldn't just "be done with it".
- dark-star 9mo ago
  No, I'm not, and I also don't live under an opressive government that tracks those people down. I simply don't care if the us government or some random US company knows about what I play, eat, talk about or who I sleep with. And my guess is that outside the US LGBTQ+ and "different political view" bubble, most people also don't care. And that bubble makes up maybe 5% of Discord's user base
  - int_19h 9mo ago
    The real question is, how much of the "terminally online" population who is more likely to use paid Discord features?
airstrike 9mo ago
Remember digg? I've already cancelled my Nitro account. I'm quite active on a ~5k member programming server and we're giving Zulip another try. I think it's unlikely we'll stay on Discord. Obviously anecdotal, but eventually this adds up.
- deleted 9mo ago
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- lossyalgo 9mo ago
  Also cancelled my Nitro after 5 years. This whole thing being "for the safety of kids" is obviously a farce just to get more user data because Nitro users supposedly will have to do the ID check as well, but if you're paying with a CC/Paypal, you are obviously of sufficient age to not require an ID check.

jasonfarnon 9mo ago

Is there any data on what kind of hits to enrollment were taken by facebook, gmail etc when they added requirements like a phone #? Maybe it's buried in their sec filings.

jasonfarnon 9mo ago

Is there any data on what kind of hits to enrollment were taken by facebook, gmail etc when they added requirements like a phone #? Maybe it's buried in their sec filings. Anyway, this "cat and mouse" game is probably irrelevant. They're not looking for and don't need a perfect system. Bc 99% of the public couldn't care less about handing over their information.

drnick1 9mo ago
Google does not require a phone number. They may ask for one and tell you it's for your own good, but you can skip the request.