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It's true that non-coastal Utah, Colorado, and Minnesota have good life expectancy for the US but they lag behind California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jerse

It's true that non-coastal Utah, Colorado, and Minnesota have good life expectancy for the US but they lag behind California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Hawaii. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/state-life-expectancy/index_2022.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/state-life-expec... Utah is 1.7 years behind the EU average. Even Hawaii with the highest life expectancy in the US is behind all but the former Eastern Block EU countries. https://web.archive.org/web/20240324032202/https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_about_population/data/europe-developed-countries/life-expectancy/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240324032202/https://www.ined.... (Archive link to get comparable 2022 data.)

trimethylpurine 8mo ago
Sounds about right. I'm surprised by California. Nice. But I bet healthcare costs are way higher there. To match with higher income, I guess.
- laurencerowe 8mo ago
  Median income is not much lower in Utah than in California. Utah's low healthcare spending per capita is likely a reflection of Utah having the lowest median age of any state. Most healthcare costs are spent on elderly people. I should add though that life expectancy is affected at least as much by social policy as by healthcare spending. Much of the difference is a result of cars/guns/drugs killing more people earlier in life in the US than in Europe.
  - trimethylpurine 8mo ago
    Doesn't seem like big correlation in this case. Violent crime rate is roughly double in California compared with Utah.
    - laurencerowe 8mo ago
      While Utah has a lower homicide rate than California (2.2 vs 5.1 per 100k) like many rural states it has a much higher suicide rate (21.5 vs 10.1 per 100k). Accident mortality (mostly overdoses and car accidents) are similar (49.7 vs 51.1 per 100k). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/homicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/homicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/suicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/suicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/accidents.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/accidents.html More on the drivers of lower life expectancy in US here: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/what-drives-differences-in-life-expectancy-between-the-u-s-and-comparable-countries/ https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/what-dr...
      - trimethylpurine 8mo ago
        All really interesting stuff. Thanks.

trimethylpurine 8mo ago

Sounds about right. I'm surprised by California. Nice. But I bet healthcare costs are way higher there. To match with higher income, I guess.

laurencerowe 8mo ago
Median income is not much lower in Utah than in California. Utah's low healthcare spending per capita is likely a reflection of Utah having the lowest median age of any state. Most healthcare costs are spent on elderly people. I should add though that life expectancy is affected at least as much by social policy as by healthcare spending. Much of the difference is a result of cars/guns/drugs killing more people earlier in life in the US than in Europe.
- trimethylpurine 8mo ago
  Doesn't seem like big correlation in this case. Violent crime rate is roughly double in California compared with Utah.
  - laurencerowe 8mo ago
    While Utah has a lower homicide rate than California (2.2 vs 5.1 per 100k) like many rural states it has a much higher suicide rate (21.5 vs 10.1 per 100k). Accident mortality (mostly overdoses and car accidents) are similar (49.7 vs 51.1 per 100k). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/homicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/homicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/suicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/suicide.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/accidents.html https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/state-stats/deaths/accidents.html More on the drivers of lower life expectancy in US here: https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/what-drives-differences-in-life-expectancy-between-the-u-s-and-comparable-countries/ https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/what-dr...
    - trimethylpurine 8mo ago
      All really interesting stuff. Thanks.