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> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their

> The Suspects Peter Thiel Has anyone tried garlic on him? > Vampires don’t drink blood because young blood contains an elixir. They drink blood because their own blood accumulates factors that accelerate aging, and they need to periodically dilute it. I don't think this makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever.

groby_b 8mo ago
> I don't think this [ed:periodical dilution] makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever. You might want to read up on chaperone-mediated autophagy, and how that declines over time. There's a point to be made that yes, in old age we collect things in our blood that don't belong. It might not be solvable through dilution, but it's not like we get a full blood change every 5K miles either.
- smegger001 8mo ago
  as someone that donates plasma twice weekly I wonder what health effects of removing and filtering the blood regularly has if accumulation of byproducts is a major issue
  - jaggederest 8mo ago
    I believe research has shown that blood and plasma donors have mild positive benefits.
glitchc 8mo ago
Not the same blood, but dead cell matter does accumulate in plasma over time. The body has active mechanisms that perform cleaning: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7392086/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7392086/
sgt 8mo ago
Imagine showing up to a meeting with Thiel wearing a huge garlic and onion necklace.
- koakuma-chan 8mo ago
  "What important truth do very few people agree with you on?" "Garlic"
0x4e 8mo ago
Maybe garlic alludes to the working class.
maerF0x0 8mo ago
The replication process makes worse and worse copies over time. Plus the cleanup crew gets confused and weak. Each bit of aging makes the process of keeping you young work less well, and hence you age more + faster.
ASalazarMX 8mo ago
Who knew we could coexist with vampires if we give each some kind of dialysis machine? Imagine the kind of cultural works someone with centuries of experience could create. Imagine a vampire historian!
- _carbyau_ 8mo ago
  If they haven't recorded it in some way then it doesn't matter. And if they have, then it's what a human historian could do too. Can you recall well what you did ten years ago to the day? How much is a vampire is going to accurately recall from a hundred years ago? At best, the vampire has bragging rights like "I hung out with Gandhi." We'd need some evidence the vampire has super-recall AND is somehow trustworthy enough to not change the story depending on motivations of the day.
observationist 8mo ago
This is actually one of the mechanisms behind "blood swaps" done by the rich and weird. Donating blood frequently also reduces various accumulated "factors" that reduce kidney stress, encourage healthy new blood, and is overall beneficial to health. Various other mechanisms can improve how effective your body is at recycling cells, encouraging autophagy and filtering things in the blood. There are a whole suite of various supplements and medicines that work in this system. As undead, though, vampires no longer produce new living blood, so require fresh blood of the living to restore lost function. Or something. I guess that'd make Bryan Johnson the ultimate thrall?
- password4321 8mo ago
  20161027 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12809722#12810990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12809722#12810990 Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing 20170113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13395478 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13395478 Questionable “Young Blood” Transfusions Offered in U.S. As Anti-Aging Remedy 20170421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14163395#14164470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14163395#14164470 Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory 20170521 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo Silicon Valley S04E05 The Blood Boy 20170602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14470314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14470314 An anti-ageing startup is offering transfusions of blood from young people 20170825 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15102304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15102304 Some wealthy people are injecting blood from teenagers to gain ‘immortality’ 20180120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16194413 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16194413 Clinical trial finds blood-plasma infusions for Alzheimer’s safe, promising 20180907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17929462 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17929462 Startups Flock to Turn Young Blood into an Elixir of Youth 20190117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929943 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929943 Blood transfusion startup Ambrosia is now up and running 20190221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19213938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19213938 FDA warning brings young-blood transfusion company to a halt 20191108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21484203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21484203 Ambrosia, the Young Blood Transfusion Startup, Is Quietly Back in Business (0 comments) 20230817 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37163684#37164170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37163684#37164170 Older mouse brains rejuvenated by protein found in young blood
jimnotgym 8mo ago
> Has anyone tried garlic on him? Or indeed daylight I was going to suggest some other vampire remedies, but I was worried Palantir will scan this and tell ICE.

groby_b 8mo ago

> I don't think this [ed:periodical dilution] makes sense. Our bodies do not use the same blood forever. You might want to read up on chaperone-mediated autophagy, and how that declines over time. There's a point to be made that yes, in old age we collect things in our blood that don't belong. It might not be solvable through dilution, but it's not like we get a full blood change every 5K miles either.

smegger001 8mo ago
as someone that donates plasma twice weekly I wonder what health effects of removing and filtering the blood regularly has if accumulation of byproducts is a major issue
- jaggederest 8mo ago
  I believe research has shown that blood and plasma donors have mild positive benefits.

glitchc 8mo ago

Not the same blood, but dead cell matter does accumulate in plasma over time. The body has active mechanisms that perform cleaning: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7392086/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7392086/

sgt 8mo ago

Imagine showing up to a meeting with Thiel wearing a huge garlic and onion necklace.

koakuma-chan 8mo ago
"What important truth do very few people agree with you on?" "Garlic"

0x4e 8mo ago

Maybe garlic alludes to the working class.

maerF0x0 8mo ago

The replication process makes worse and worse copies over time. Plus the cleanup crew gets confused and weak. Each bit of aging makes the process of keeping you young work less well, and hence you age more + faster.

ASalazarMX 8mo ago

Who knew we could coexist with vampires if we give each some kind of dialysis machine? Imagine the kind of cultural works someone with centuries of experience could create. Imagine a vampire historian!

_carbyau_ 8mo ago
If they haven't recorded it in some way then it doesn't matter. And if they have, then it's what a human historian could do too. Can you recall well what you did ten years ago to the day? How much is a vampire is going to accurately recall from a hundred years ago? At best, the vampire has bragging rights like "I hung out with Gandhi." We'd need some evidence the vampire has super-recall AND is somehow trustworthy enough to not change the story depending on motivations of the day.

observationist 8mo ago

This is actually one of the mechanisms behind "blood swaps" done by the rich and weird. Donating blood frequently also reduces various accumulated "factors" that reduce kidney stress, encourage healthy new blood, and is overall beneficial to health. Various other mechanisms can improve how effective your body is at recycling cells, encouraging autophagy and filtering things in the blood. There are a whole suite of various supplements and medicines that work in this system. As undead, though, vampires no longer produce new living blood, so require fresh blood of the living to restore lost function. Or something. I guess that'd make Bryan Johnson the ultimate thrall?

password4321 8mo ago
20161027 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12809722#12810990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12809722#12810990 Anti-Aging Startup Raises $116M With Bezos Backing 20170113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13395478 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13395478 Questionable “Young Blood” Transfusions Offered in U.S. As Anti-Aging Remedy 20170421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14163395#14164470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14163395#14164470 Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory 20170521 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBA0AH-LSbo Silicon Valley S04E05 The Blood Boy 20170602 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14470314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14470314 An anti-ageing startup is offering transfusions of blood from young people 20170825 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15102304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15102304 Some wealthy people are injecting blood from teenagers to gain ‘immortality’ 20180120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16194413 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16194413 Clinical trial finds blood-plasma infusions for Alzheimer’s safe, promising 20180907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17929462 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17929462 Startups Flock to Turn Young Blood into an Elixir of Youth 20190117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929943 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929943 Blood transfusion startup Ambrosia is now up and running 20190221 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19213938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19213938 FDA warning brings young-blood transfusion company to a halt 20191108 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21484203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21484203 Ambrosia, the Young Blood Transfusion Startup, Is Quietly Back in Business (0 comments) 20230817 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37163684#37164170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37163684#37164170 Older mouse brains rejuvenated by protein found in young blood

jimnotgym 8mo ago

> Has anyone tried garlic on him? Or indeed daylight I was going to suggest some other vampire remedies, but I was worried Palantir will scan this and tell ICE.