4 ms·
Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish (2005)
- N_Lens 8mo agoI think this philosophy is leading us to the realm of hungry ghosts - a hell realm in Buddhism where craving is everpresent and satisfaction and contentment aren't to be found.
- Dban1 8mo agogotta be humble hungry
- RugnirViking 8mo agoThe kinds of people that make it to those positions of power often are hungry ghosts. Is musk happy?
- Juliate 8mo agoI don't think those kinds of realm (hell or heaven) exist anywhere but right where/who we are now. And it very much depends from how you define what being hungry and foolish means: hungry of what? foolish according to who? Curiosity, wonder is a kind of hunger; and for some, foolishness. Not playing by the rules is a form of foolishness, and depending on the context, and on who defines/thinks of the rules. Satisfaction and contentment are good, but have you tried unsatisfaction and discontentment? They are also necessary, for without them, there is no movement, no change, no loss of equilibrium that calls for your noticing, your contemplation, and perhaps your action. Being alive is constant change. I always understood the line ("stay hungry, stay foolish") as a call to being aware of oneself, being curious of one's own peculiar being and wants, being aware of one's surroundings and of one's capacity to say/make something out of this existence.
- metalman 8mo agoahhh! your use of the word craving is important, as hunger itself, great hunger is what feeds true satiation even bieng very thirsty and finding water that is clean, and just the right temperature can be a feast and celibration.
- keiferski 8mo agoIt’s interesting that for how successful Jobs was, there really aren’t many young people who seem to emulate his life path. The guy went to an extremely unorthodox college, took some “impractical” courses like typography, dropped out, and basically lived a hippie-esque existence until Apple worked out. This seems to me like the opposite of the typical ambitious young person’s plan today, over filled with extracurriculars, prestigious degrees, and well-worn paths to success. You’d think that Jobs’ success would lead to more people trying to emulate his roundabout path, at least superficially. Maybe you could make the argument that Jobs was just too unique to serve as a role model for everyone else. And the labor market is a lot different today vs. back then. But I do think that his apparent lack of institutional hyper-optimization contributed to his success in a fundamental way.
- ThomasBb 8mo agoThere might be a selection bias - off all the people who take that roundabout route; few achieve Jobs’ level of success. We never hear about them.
- Juliate 8mo agoHis level of recognition. Success is something else, not about fame, not necessarily public.
- glimshe 8mo agoI think they were talking about financial/professional success, as in being a founder of a billion+ dollar company.
- Juliate 8mo agoI guess so, but they still seem confused: > Job's level of success. We never hear about them. Success != hearing about it. You don't hear or know about most people success, or failure, for that matter; even huge ones. You know about a very small subset of these. That's fame. And I'm just not sure that "being a found of a billion+ dollar company" was what Jobs considered his own success; but a consequence or aside part of it. Actually, no one knows but him.
- rgovostes 8mo agoNot to be overlooked: The "Related Artifacts" section at the bottom has 8 drafts written between January and June 2005. https://stevejobsarchive.com/artifact/steves-drafts https://stevejobsarchive.com/artifact/steves-drafts
- kilroy123 8mo agoI wonder if he were alive today, what he would have said to the graduating class of 2025?
- tonyedgecombe 8mo agoIf our AI isn’t working for you then you are holding it wrong.