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Why even consider violent civil war a possible outcome when we can redirect to peaceful separation instead, before more innocent life is lost? Human life is mor

Why even consider violent civil war a possible outcome when we can redirect to peaceful separation instead, before more innocent life is lost? Human life is more important than federal supremacy. The adults in the room need to reject the immature tendency towards violence even if we're to decide that we can no longer live together as "one nation".

leptons 8mo ago
Splitting up the country to avoid a bloody civil war? Are you serious? The first thing that happens if California secedes is California's ports will be blockaded by US warships. And it's going downhill quickly from there. This administration would love nothing more than justification to lock up every citizen left-of-right-wing, or just exterminate them outright. They have been demonizing liberals for years as child molesters and satanists, casting them as less than human, violent, and depraved. You think a bloodless separation is possible? It's more likely that pigs will sprout wings and fly.
- tracker1 8mo ago
  It goes both ways with plenty of people on the left talking about "re-education" camps for conservatives around the 2020-2021 timeframe.
  - leptons 8mo ago
    What prominent left-wing politician has ever talked about "re-education" camps? None, that's who. I'm not talking about vile rhetoric coming from reddit commenters, I'm talking about people in the current administration - when Steven Miller said "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be" - exactly what do you think he meant?
    - tracker1 8mo ago
      I guess Hillary Clinton doesn't count, eh... not prominent at all. https://www.econlib.org/hillary-clintons-disturbing-comments-on-deprogramming-and-peoples-freedom/ https://www.econlib.org/hillary-clintons-disturbing-comments...
      - leptons 8mo ago
        No, Hillary Clinton does not count. Hillary Clinton is not currently a prominent politician, hasn't run for any office in over a decade, and lost the election during the timeframe when she said that. So you're reaching pretty far back to come up with that.

leptons 8mo ago

Splitting up the country to avoid a bloody civil war? Are you serious? The first thing that happens if California secedes is California's ports will be blockaded by US warships. And it's going downhill quickly from there. This administration would love nothing more than justification to lock up every citizen left-of-right-wing, or just exterminate them outright. They have been demonizing liberals for years as child molesters and satanists, casting them as less than human, violent, and depraved. You think a bloodless separation is possible? It's more likely that pigs will sprout wings and fly.

tracker1 8mo ago
It goes both ways with plenty of people on the left talking about "re-education" camps for conservatives around the 2020-2021 timeframe.
- leptons 8mo ago
  What prominent left-wing politician has ever talked about "re-education" camps? None, that's who. I'm not talking about vile rhetoric coming from reddit commenters, I'm talking about people in the current administration - when Steven Miller said "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be" - exactly what do you think he meant?
  - tracker1 8mo ago
    I guess Hillary Clinton doesn't count, eh... not prominent at all. https://www.econlib.org/hillary-clintons-disturbing-comments-on-deprogramming-and-peoples-freedom/ https://www.econlib.org/hillary-clintons-disturbing-comments...
    - leptons 8mo ago
      No, Hillary Clinton does not count. Hillary Clinton is not currently a prominent politician, hasn't run for any office in over a decade, and lost the election during the timeframe when she said that. So you're reaching pretty far back to come up with that.