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Unfortunate, just recently I read "Influenza vaccination is associated with significantly lower odds of myocardial infarction (MI), according to a large meta-a

Unfortunate, just recently I read "Influenza vaccination is associated with significantly lower odds of myocardial infarction (MI), according to a large meta-analysis published late last week in BMC Public Health." https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/influenza-vaccines/new-analysis-links-flu-vaccination-18-lower-odds-heart-attack https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/influenza-vaccines/new-analysis-l...

ottah 8mo ago
We will still have flu vaccines, just not this vaccine.
- altcognito 8mo ago
  The question isn't whether or not we have vaccines, it is whether or not we have the most effective vaccines.
  - alex43578 8mo ago
    It’s a good thing the specific criticism of this trial is that they didn’t use the most effective vaccine for 65+ people, since you’re concerned about having the most effective vaccines.
    - watwut 8mo ago
      So, the majority of us, people under 65 are completely unaffected. And yes, the vaccine can be approved for 65- while not approved for 65+.
      - alex43578 8mo ago
        The fall 2025 approval was limited to 65+/preexisting conditions. If this vaccine wasn’t being tested for 65+, it might not be approved at all based on that.
    - altcognito 8mo ago
      How do you know if you don’t do a study? You can call anything a criticism, but it doesn’t make it true.
- ajb 8mo ago
  Older flu vaccines become less effective, as there are many flu strains and the dominant one changes. Different flu vaccine is recommended every year.
  - ottah 8mo ago
    Let's just be plain as possible because online commenters are some of the most obtuse people. 1. Vaccines are good, everyone should get the fucking flu shot 2. There will be new vaccines targeting current strains of influenza available this season from other manufacturers using older methods 3. I have no fucking clue if an mRNA flu vaccine is good or bad, but I also don't care 4. I get mrna vaccines can be developed faster, we might be better served, but we are not losing existing capabilities 5. If we are short on vaccines produced with older methods that is likely poor business planning and not an actual technical limitation 6. I hate you

ottah 8mo ago

We will still have flu vaccines, just not this vaccine.

altcognito 8mo ago
The question isn't whether or not we have vaccines, it is whether or not we have the most effective vaccines.
- alex43578 8mo ago
  It’s a good thing the specific criticism of this trial is that they didn’t use the most effective vaccine for 65+ people, since you’re concerned about having the most effective vaccines.
  - watwut 8mo ago
    So, the majority of us, people under 65 are completely unaffected. And yes, the vaccine can be approved for 65- while not approved for 65+.
    - alex43578 8mo ago
      The fall 2025 approval was limited to 65+/preexisting conditions. If this vaccine wasn’t being tested for 65+, it might not be approved at all based on that.
  - altcognito 8mo ago
    How do you know if you don’t do a study? You can call anything a criticism, but it doesn’t make it true.
ajb 8mo ago
Older flu vaccines become less effective, as there are many flu strains and the dominant one changes. Different flu vaccine is recommended every year.
- ottah 8mo ago
  Let's just be plain as possible because online commenters are some of the most obtuse people. 1. Vaccines are good, everyone should get the fucking flu shot 2. There will be new vaccines targeting current strains of influenza available this season from other manufacturers using older methods 3. I have no fucking clue if an mRNA flu vaccine is good or bad, but I also don't care 4. I get mrna vaccines can be developed faster, we might be better served, but we are not losing existing capabilities 5. If we are short on vaccines produced with older methods that is likely poor business planning and not an actual technical limitation 6. I hate you